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Topic: Sampler FX stopped working with recent VDJ update [FIXED] - Page: 1
I just sat down to record a new mix tonight and Sampler FX are no longer working. I have them turned on as usual with mix set to taste but none of the sampler pads are responding to fx and samples play dry. Is there a change to the way sampler FX work now? Version 2025-i b8439

UPDATE: reverted back to 2024 8350 and Samper FX working as normal
 
Posted Wed 27 Nov 24 @ 1:20 pm
If you are triggering the samples from the pads, make sure to select Sampler for pads audio output.
 
FX on the sampler output are working here (Windows 11).
 
Ah it looks like you can't use sampler FX for swapped stems.
 
They are on the decks, so they share fx with the decks
 
OK but it doesn't seem possible to apply the FX just to the sample (i.e. when replacing a drum stem).

I can choose to apply the deck FX to just the drums stem on the playing track, but if I replace that stem with the sampled drums, the FX don't get applied to the replacement (the sample).
 
That's indeed not yet possible, but is still planned for after the initial release
 
Adion wrote :
If you are triggering the samples from the pads, make sure to select Sampler for pads audio output.

Is this a new behaviour and adjustment that must be made? I'm using a custom skin for many years so I would not see any new switches or toggles if that is the case. Reverting back to 2024 8350 put everything back to "normal" with no changes being made on my part.
 
Adion wrote :
They are on the decks, so they share fx with the decks


They don't share FX with the decks at least not up to VDJ 2024.
 
In VirtualDJ 2025, the sampler can now operate either on the deck, or on the main sampler line.
We did this change so that "stems" samples can "swap" with the corresponding stems on the deck.

by default, if a sample is triggered from the pads on the controller, or from the pads on the skin in the deck section, the sample will be played on the deck (and can swap stems). They will be affected by the deck volume, and will go through the deck effects.
If a sample is triggered from the sideview sampler, they will go on the master output, and will go through the sampler effects.

In the context menu of the sampler (the small round button on the pads or in the sideview), you have an option to change the behavior, and force pads to be on the master, or sideview to be on a specific deck.
 
As long as there's a way to default to the previous modus operandi...

I want the pads on my controller to trigger the samples (so I need the sampler selected on the VDJ decks), but I want independent FX on the sampler, because most of the time I'm not going to be stem swapping.

I also don't want to find myself hitting a pad then not hearing the sample because the volume on the channel fader for that deck is down.
 
then you need to set samplerAudioOutputPads to "sampler", that is exactly for what you're asking
 
OK, so........swap stems only works (presumably) if I have selected which stem to swap for each sample in the editor.

If I have selected a swap, then the 'swap' menu option appears in the sampler, so I can disable it. If it's enabled then the sampler FX are disabled.

If there's a dedicated sampler output, the sampler never goes through the deck?
 
groovindj wrote :
If there's a dedicated sampler output, the sampler never goes through the deck?


When samplerAudioOutputPads=smart (the default), it will be on Sampler if there's a dedicated sampler output, and deck in any other cases.
So if there's a dedicated sampler output, the default is indeed to go to the sampler output, but you can still force it to deck in the option (or in the context menu "audio output pads")
 
What happens by default in the case of controllers like the DDJ-1000 or DDJ-FLX10, which have a master + headphones output configuration with no dedicated sampler output but have a sampler volume control? Will the sampler volume control take precedence, will deck controls, or is this case not related/unaffected?
 
Just tested it in smart mode (the default) with my DDJ-1000. The deck controls take precedent (volume faders can lower/mute samples triggered from pads) similar to the initial report of sampler FX of this thread, which is unexpected (there are many times I lower a channel fader after transitioning to the opposite deck and still use that deck for drops to free up pad use with the opposite and now audible deck). It works as expected with the DJM-S11 (dedicated sampler output).

Is there any way for the original behavior to be maintained without manual intervention as described? I could imagine a fair number of reports of this new behavior as a bug coming in for users of affected controllers.
 
so, the behavior can be set easily to how it was in vdj2024 by setting "audio output pads" to "sampler".

we used to have it as default during the first beta versions of vdj2025, but we found people were getting confused that "stem swap" samples were playing on the deck (which they have to in order to swap), while other regular drops in the bank were playing on the master.

but if enough people are getting confused or upset that the new default is to play pads on the deck, we might reverse this decision.
 
Yep I'm not meaning to cause confusion with the new feature or anything, but I do think that a lot of DJs will be tripped up by this and it could cause panic/other negative reactions - they just want to know that they update the software and things work like they used to.

Maybe set it to smart only for the GRV6 on its connection?

(More of a brainstorm) Is it possible to mark a bank as stem swappable (by default = no) so that the behaviour is modified based on the bank's value of it when switching to that bank (maybe even visualy indicate that on the deck)?
 
I am definitely lost with this update, just waaaay to many layers for me to be able to use practically.

Does help there isn't any official guides/videos/manuals for this stuff.
 
the SOUND INSURGENT wrote :
I am definitely lost with this update, just waaaay to many layers for me to be able to use practically.

Does help there isn't any official guides/videos/manuals for this stuff.


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