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Topic: Sampler FX stopped working with recent VDJ update [FIXED] - Page: 2
new EarlyAccess build coming soon, that should help with this
 
Oh my this is definitely not the way to launch a new feature change imho. You get ready to go to your headlining gig with your meticulously prepared set with FX and.... nothing...🤣 Of course I realize this was the early access channel but maybe have a popup in the app to make users aware of feature breaking or feature changing updates like this so they have a heads up? I was panicking for a bit until I downgraded.🤔 I think some users are on old skins so they won't see new toggles or switches with regards to new features or changes.
 
gabrieldiggs wrote :
Oh my this is definitely not the way to launch a new feature change imho. You get ready to go to your headlining gig with your meticulously prepared set with FX and.... nothing...🤣 Of course I realize this was the early access channel but maybe have a popup in the app to make users aware of feature breaking or feature changing updates like this so they have a heads up? I was panicking for a bit until I downgraded.🤔 I think some users are on old skins so they won't see new toggles or switches with regards to new features or changes.


We try to make sure that our upgrades don't disrupt previous usage patterns.
But that's also why we have Early Access release, to identify all the use cases.
The latest Early Access build that was released today (b8460) should fix what you described before, now your existing banks will have sampler FX applied as before, and will not be bound to the deck volume.
Only new banks recorded with stems will be deck-bound, but that will not affect your existing workflow until you decide to try this new feature.
 
Ok great and thanks for the quick software update! The new mix is a banger by the way. One of the best I've done yet. If you like Alex O'Rion, Sudbeat (Label), Nick Warren etc. check it out here: https://t.me/magneticsoultechhouse/22
 
gabrieldiggs wrote :
You get ready to go to your headlining gig with your meticulously prepared set with FX and.... nothing

As many people have said over many years to many posts like yours - if you know you have a gig coming up, don't install a new build!
 
Thank you @Stephane for making the bank property change (default to old behavior and opt in for new behavior is always safer most times).

One other question, was the Locked Bank property (added to all previous existing banks it seems by default) added to prevent inadvertent modification of banks, like recording stems to the bank?
 
yes, old banks are locked so that they keep the same behavior as in vdj2024 until you explicitly change it
 
Presumably then, if we have a bank with varied content, it's not advisable to set one sample to stem swap, as that would affect the way the entire bank is loaded (deck vs master)?
 
you cannot "set one sample to stemswap", either the full bank is stemswap or not.
if a bank is stemswap, it means stems samples will swap, and all samples in the bank, stems or not, will play on the deck.
if a bank is regular (not stemswap), it means stems samples will play on top of the track, and all samples will play on the output set in the options (that is master by default, but can be changed to deck)

This way all the variations are possible for advanced users, using the two settings (stemswap and sampler audio ouput):
swap a stem on deck, play a stem on deck, play a stem on master, play a drop on deck, play a drop on master.
the only variation that is not allowed, is to swap a stem on master, because obviously to swap it needs to be on deck
 
OK, how do I tell VDJ that a bank is stemswap?

I just tried one bank made a few days ago, consisting of drum loops set to replace the kick - and VDJ has not assigned a stems logo to it in the bank list, and it's not working as stem swap.

Ah, I found it. You have to right click in the browser (left side) and select it.

By the way, as I mentioned in another thread recently, the per-song bank does not show recorded stem samples in the sampler window in list view. They only show in pad view.
 
Stephane Clavel wrote :
yes, old banks are locked so that they keep the same behavior as in vdj2024 until you explicitly change it


That makes sense. I'll give it a run over the weekend with both the DJM-S11 and DDJ-1000 but I suspect the bank property solved all of the issues I would have with the way I would anticipate using the sampler (the legacy way). I'll have to wrap my head aroung the new way but it's a big feature in terms of what is made possible (on the fly redrums, melody mashups, etc).

Thanks again 🙏🏾
 
gabrieldiggs wrote :
I just sat down to record a new mix tonight and Sampler FX are no longer working. I have them turned on as usual with mix set to taste but none of the sampler pads are responding to fx and samples play dry. Is there a change to the way sampler FX work now? Version 2025-i b8439

UPDATE: reverted back to 2024 8350 and Samper FX working as normal


I'm having issues as well on sampler pads on controller don't seem to output via the sampler, which setting Am i changing cant seem to find the audiooutputpads setting anywhere? Can't seem to get sampler effects to work. Also pads on controller don't show up in the side via so i can edit them seems to be the same samples but whatever i do doesn't change the samples on the pads only when i click it on the screen
 
Read the updated sampler page in the VDJ manual - it's all explained.
 
Read that doesn't seem to explain, why samples launched from my controller can no longer have samper fx applied they only have sampler fx applied when you launch the sample from the side view by clicking the mouse? Why is that i thing. I never use my mouse to click samples only ever use my controller.

It just feels disjointed nothing seems to work editing samples, applying fx controlling the volume fader on the side list for a sample when you launch the sample from a controller. It only works when you click the sample in the side view with the mouse. What Am i doing wrong to make the pads on my controller work the same way as they do by clikcing the mouse?
 
Stemswap samples work via the deck, so they use deck FX and volume. If they're not set to stemswap then they have their own FX and volume.

If you use the 'per deck' bank then you won't see samples in the sample area of sideview unless you're in pad view. This is the only bank that applies to.
 
groovindj wrote :
Stemswap samples work via the deck, so they use deck FX and volume. If they're not set to stemswap then they have their own FX and volume.

If you use the 'per deck' bank then you won't see samples in the sample area of sideview unless you're in pad view. This is the only bank that applies to.


Hi thanks for info not trying to use stem swap banks as understand you can't use fx on them as they do through the deck fx. When you say pads sample have there own FX and volume how do I control this the settings and which FX can't seem to find how to do this?
 
 
Adion wrote :
The same as before
-Verify that the bank you are using is not a stemswap bank
https://www.virtualdj.com/manuals/virtualdj/interface/browser/sideview/sampler.html#stemswap

-Adjust volume and effects from sideview
https://www.virtualdj.com/manuals/virtualdj/interface/browser/sideview/sampler.html#ShowEffects

-On the sampler pad page, in the options menu, verify that the 'Audio Output' for regular banks is correct


Just don't understand what I'm doing wrong all the settings work fine if I play the sample in the sideview by using my mouse to click them.

But as soon as I use the exact same samples by pressing the pad button on my controller the sample don't work with fx on them? On the pad page I have the audio output set to master is that correct?
 
What controller are you using?
 
numark nvii
 
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