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locodog wrote :
Are either you guys on soundcloud? I have a feeling that I would like some of your likes.


Not yet waiting on a mixer so i can set up the 1200s then im gonna try my hand at VDJ radio, ustream and soundcloud....
 
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djmagicmoments wrote :
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We gotta be totally realistic about some facts: How hard is it to beat match house music, or edm? Try beat mixing or just mixing some of the new hip hop with some top 40, old school 80's, 90's hip hop or top 40, southern rap (Aka the Lacs) and back to top 40, all in 10 mins. Never mind that Im also mixing EDM, Dubstep throughout the night to please the 10% That's what hip hop deejays do down south.
 
Too true, A hiphop dj is much more adaptable, give him a crate of techno he's never heard and he could still put out a passable set, give a techno dj a crate of hiphop and you'll get lots of tracks unplayed because it can't beat matched thus it is 'impossible' to mix in

I'm not saying there isn't good EDM djs just that on average a hiphop dj will need more manipulation skills,
 
Please don't put all hiphop DJs in one basket and all techno DJs in another.

It's nowhere near as simple as that.

First off, a DJs skills are not directly linked to what music they play.

Second, any good DJ will not restrict themselves to playing just one type of music. You make it sound as if only hiphop DJs play multiple genres. If that's the case then they're not hiphop DJs - they're just DJs.

Techno DJs only play techno, but hiphop DJs play other things? Really? Techno DJs can only beatmatch 4/4 beats? Come on!

Get a grip on reality, locodog. Take off the blinkers. :-)
 
Hold up, I'm saying on average, give a techno dj 2 copies of a record and not much will happen, a hip hop dj the same 2 records and you'll get break chasing and doubles/ triples, break stop starts etc

I'm not saying either genre is bad but dmc djs go on to cover all types of music as were I've never seen a techno dj (one who is known mainly for techno) in the dmc finals.

I like techno but it only becomes interesting to mix once you're using 3+ records, also I think some hiphop is egotistical bling bling garbage,
In my opinion a hiphop dj needs more skill working between 70 to 110 bpm than a house dj between 124 to 128 and a hiphop dj could adapt quicker to an alien genre than a EDM dj, but hey it's just an opinion

And as for soul and funk dj's I have no idea how they manage with those drifty tracks
 
locodog wrote :
I've never seen a techno dj in the dmc finals.


That's because the DMC contest moved very quickly from being a mixing contest to being a scratching contest.

There's a very famous incident that happened in 1986, where the event was won by DJ Cheese (Chad Jackson 2nd). The guy who ended up third was angry that these guys had seemingly won it because they scratched rather than mixed.

link to that story

The DMC event had begun as a mixing contest, with DJs playing all sorts of tracks. Very soon it became all about the spectacle, with DJs dressing up in costumes and using props. Scratching using a snooker cue, a bicycle wheel, a rugby ball etc.

Thankfully we're over that stage now, but it's still very much about the performance - and that's why there tends to be lots of scratching and cutting.........because it gives the audience something to look at. It's more visually interesting.

At DJ exhibitions, stands tend to have those type of DJs performing because it draws a crowd. It's something to see.

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I used to DJ with soul and funk in clubs during the 80s, and for a period I was one of the few UK DJs who could mix.
 
I don't know if Groovin is all right but yeah I remember Bad Boy Bill winning the 83 (I think it was) DMC. But then again he's never been a regular house DJ. He's always added scratches and juggled tracks.

Which is probably how the DMC came to be what it is now. I mean the EDM djs knew they were boring so they took elements from hip hop djs and put them into their own sets. Once they saw how they could by doing this it just kept evolving. But once hip hop djs got in on it, well that pretty much put them in there place, lmao!! That's just my opinion and thoughts on it.
 
Aye I've seen the early Vids some of the acts relied on zany, which is never a good thing in the long run
I can remember 2 Latvian lads using reel to reel tape decks to scratch and break chase which still to this day is impressive.
I can also remember q-bert's first DMC set everyone else had a pile of records and they used headphones, q-bert just turned up with 2 records with stickers on them. but then there are rumours that q-bert isn't human.

I'm not trying to defame EDM dj's or music, (it's all about rocking a crowd) (and I play from moombahton to speedcore) I just think the skills needed to be a good hiphop dj are harder to learn.
 
Yeah, the "no headphones" thing was a big deal (not sure if Qbert was the first with that though).


Reel to reel tape decks - well if it's good enough for Greg Wilson...



I've still got mine too:
 
 
Hmm inspiration for my home made HID controller, what kind of rpm do you get from a R2R tape deck? 10.5" would be a nice size for a platter,
 
Pro tape machines like that run at 15 inches per second (tape past the head) so the reels rotate pretty fast. Fast forward and reverse is very fast and noisy!
 
Mmmm, that's some tricky maths to convert, I think the tape head must pull the tape at the determined speed, and then the tension measures must set the reel speeds, anyway ponderance aside, you can run the tape at slow speed so the reel motors should be good for 0-90 rpm smoothly, if I can buy one cheap I'll experiment.

Excuse me while I prattle out loud, carry on everybody.
 
I remember one time seeing a go hard on 2 small cassette tape players.....blew my mind....
 


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