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While i am fairly familier with Virtual DJ i have to say im extremely dissapointed to find that with no matter what version asides VDJ Pro, you are limited to a 10 minute trial for external dj controllers.
What is that all about ?

I just payed for an external device and its absolutely no good to me what so ever, and im not going to pay to upgrade...
Hell no that should be a standard option (obvious reasons), ill be looking for another software.

IMO despite being a good software its incomplete and your charged for it, regardless of the notification i later found in the details about mouse only which i wasnt aware as i have used it before (it didnt belong to me) i used it on a friends device.
He had a hardware hooked up i just assumed it was all inclusive having read more into it not impressed.
 
Posted Tue 30 Jul 13 @ 10:09 am
Please show me one PAID software thats an LE version that let's you everything.......... Right you won't.

Stop being cheap and buy the full version. If you buy a controller that COMES with the LE version you'll get a discount on the FULL PRO VERSION.....
 
That's not true, I bought a VMS4 with LE version and used it with my controller without any problem and only upgraded to the Pro version because I wanted more features. I find your question dumb because if the free versions could be used without any imitations then nobody would buy the pro version.
 
How am i being cheap ? I just bought a software also i payed for the hardware and i cant use it because in order to do so im to upgrade....
I dont think so... To use such a function on any mixing software should be an obvious basic function.
And unless your loaded and offering to buy pro for me i suggest you stop right now with that type of attitude sir.
Also to boot if i really wanted to be a cheapskate and overide any problem id download a cracked torrent and milk it for all its worth but i didnt did i ?
Instead i chose to come here and at least support the cause cheaper option or not.
 
Who said anything about the free version ?
I didnt did i ?
I did however BUY the VirtualDJ Broadcaster which being a cheaper option or not it is still payed for NOT free, in which case my point still stands how can i not use an external controller that in my book is pure BS.
WHat extras did i get in that that the free one doesnt i can record sets with free one, which im sure i will with this one. I can broadcast with the free one limited to what i can push out bandwidth wise maybe but its still doable.
So i cant use hardware on free one ok thats kool, wait i just payed for VDJBroadcaster but i still cant use it ?
So what did i pay for ? to broadcast ?
What good is that if i cant mix propperly, i hate using mouse and keyboard thats why i purchased it in the first place on the understanding that should then overcome that problem.
 
Oh so since you didn't properly research the products it's the software's fault??

Seems like user error to me..........
 
Hey i didnt say that did i, i admitted fault for that i pretty clearly state that....
What i did say was, it should be a basic function allowed full stop for any purchased item.

Because asides the upgrading option, there stopping you from using a purchased external item.
And thats not on when you spent good money for it, now with that said i understand limiting certain other things and charging for it to make money, but that takes the cake.
A mistake on my end or not failure to read all text that was and still is my complaint.
 
Do you know, Durand, I had the exact same problem.

I downloaded the freebie trial, forked out, upgraded to basic to allow for external soundcards and mixers, and then bought a MixTrack Pro, supplied with Traktor LE. And I was hacked off about that. I'm a hobbyist, after all. AND it was advertised with VDJ...

So, I've upgraded, got Pro, and my now MTP has resale value, because I've not registered the discs that came with it. Also, I'm future proofed for new controllers, as most are supported, and more WILL be supported.

On top of that, the kind souls here have helped me map my MTP to waaaaay beyond its factory spec, into something far more useable. And now I'm a happy little lamb. Admittedly, the credit card DID take a beating, but thems the breaks.

Stop whining, upgrade, reap the benefits, then you too can point and sneer at others like you, just like us.

Incidentally, would you walk into a car dealership, and say 'I'll take that one!', then complain because the spec wasn't big enough?

Ta
Mike

edit: I point you here to prove the point. Grab some popcorn - gets heated.
 
No your right its my fault for not reading fully i already admitted that, but my point being is that sort of function should not be limited once you have purchased a copy of any level.
Granted that is just my opinion and i dont expect the big bods up top will change that factor just for me, but like i said i am dissapointed.
I feel let down that such a vital function imo is limited to pro only that really does take the cake and i think its a fair point that i made.

Since you mention car at that sort of price range who would be careless enough to not read the small print especially with the type of car that i would buy....
You could say the same about my lack of reading for VDJ but regardless that wasnt my point, the point was it shouldnt be limited on any purchased product to mouse and keys only.
I couldnt care less about the other options do what you will in terms of charging, but dont make it a must to upgrade just so you can use something you purchased elsewhere that claims it will work with other softwares.
Basicaly maing it so that i have to pay again just to use a tool i already payed for, uhh uhhh i dont think so.
 
Well not all software is the same and every company does it different. Hit up support and chat with them, there the only ones who can grouping now.......

And even though you have admitted it was your fault your still trying to place the blame on VDJ ....... It's not there fault.
 
@Beatbreaker - perhaps we should introduce Durand to Sonisphere - paying for updates..?!

@Durand - I meant no malice. But to be fair, you have only bought half a product. With Pro Full, you're set for life, hobbyist or otherwise...

Ta
Mike
 
A thread like this pops up every couple of months.

It can be confusing but just to clarify a midi controller will only work with either the LE version it was supplied with or Pro Full. The only version with a 10 minute limit is Home Free. the LE version has no limit whatsoever.

If you have purchased Basic or Broadcaster then that cost will be deducted if you decide to upgrade to Pro. Similarly most LE versions also carry an upgrade discount depending on the value of the controller.

Every company has differing business models, and Atomix make money on the full version whether purchased outright or upgraded from a lesser version. That also gives you free updates for the lifetime of the product which is far more than other DJ software offers. Your theory is the same as a Kia Rio being supplied with a Ferrari engine in it ......

http://www.virtualdj.com/products/comparison.html

Keith
 
I like how all who have pro stick together and try to shit talk the little man, by trying to give smart quips unfortunately that doesnt work on me i never asked for a Ferrari engine.
And just because i went for the cheaper option makes absolutely no difference what so ever, a controller for a software such as this is a key portion.
And no matter what rate i payed / option i decided to go with, i shouldnt be stuck with half a working software just because you want to make more money by forcing a more expensive option / partial upgrade with free life time upgrades that makes no difference what so ever.

As for other softwares being more expensive maybe so in which case i wouldnt buy them either, i would rather save if need be and buy external hardwear which i do actually currently already own (they are not fantastic decks) but they work. I just wanted a quick fix for my current situation i had bought a controller and as a result still cant use it so was a complete waste of time and £42
 
And again

beatbreaker1 wrote :


And even though you have admitted it was your fault your still trying to place the blame on VDJ ....... It's not there fault.


And I haven't talked shit, just said your blaming the wrong person for your mistake which you clearly have admitted it was. I'm done here.
 
Sorry, I don't agree with your statement.

No-one is talking you down. the simple fact is that you never researched before you bought and that is no-one's fault but your own.

As far as DJ software is concerned, the "Ferrari" option is Midi or TC support, and that's no different whether you choose VDJ, Mixvibes, Traktor or others. They also have limited versions with features omitted.

I have tried to explain things to you nicely but it's not the fault of anyone here that you don't agree with the price of the software. there are tens of thousands of Pro users who obviously disagree.

If you're a working DJ then the cost of Pro is negligible and will be paid back in a couple of gigs. If you're not a working DJ and it's for hobby purposes then it's maybe not the solution you're looking for.

Keith
 
Dont get me wrong Keith, i wasnt ignorant to what you said and believe me im not trying to insult you or the goods, and i really dont think people are picking up my arguement propperly.

And "Beatbreaker" so you didnt type these words

"Please show me one PAID software thats an LE version that let's you everything.......... Right you won't.

Stop being cheap and buy the full version. "

As much as you may have had a valid point that i did hear, i also heard your sarcasm (in my eyes thats talking shit) and yes again i will say i admitt fault on the not fully reading that was my error.

But again i will point out that function should not be charged extra for, or needed to be upgraded for to use
Well asides the obvious jump from free version to a purchased option i get the bods up top are in it to make money so once again there is my arguement.

I never asked them to change it did i ?

I just said i was dissapointed and felt a little let down by the fact such a function is made obsolete, unless you up the anti.
And not everyone wants to fork out $300 or what ever it would be after deductions just to use a controller.
And no im not a working dj it is just a hobby for now, i was serious about it all but at my age with my life other things took priority.
I had no choice but to turn my attention to more serious matters, now as i said for my current situation just to smash out a few tunes on a digital radio station online i wanted to use a controller i thought VDJ was the way forward i was obviously wrong.
 
Durand1981 wrote :
i shouldnt be stuck with half a working software

The software you bought is fully functional. It "does what it says on the tin", which is (as stated on the product page) a great entry solution for DJs who mix with mouse and keyboard.

Durand1981 wrote :
i had bought a controller and as a result still cant use it so was a complete waste of time and £42

Well you should have done your research there too. You chose to buy a controller which did not include an LE version of Virtual DJ. No one else is to blame. If you had bought a controller which included VDJ LE then you would have a fully working free version which works with the controller it's supplied with.

Instead, you have bought a basic version of VDJ which clearly states it's for keyboard & mouse, and a controller which doesn't include VDJ LE. Those were your decisions. You were in control. Nobody forced you to buy what you did.

You dug the hole. Now you have to lay in it!
 
I see both sides of this you have someone who bought something not understanding that additional money needed to be spent. I don't think he is being cheap I think he feels cheated. For those who are new to this it's easy to understand however the other side is you don't by an Xbox and get the games for free.

When you buy a Serato controller you used to get itch for free. No longer. Certain controllers come with basic software the more expensive come with full software

I can't fault him for not understanding as there are a lot of controllers and a lot of information to read, as far as all of the pro users sticking together we have paid for the software. Most of us are very happy with it and recouped the money spent in 1 show.

I hope you decide to buy the full version .

J
 
If he's only just bought the controller (new) then he could take it back to the store or ship it back to the online retailer, and exchange it for one that comes with VDJ LE.

I suspect though that he's bought it second hand, without software, and was expecting to be able to download VDJ and use it.
 
"But again i will point out that function should not be charged extra for, or needed to be upgraded for to use"

It takes less work to write the code for VDJ Broadcast version because it is stripped down, no need for MIDI since it does not support controllers, doesn't do video, etc.
It takes a little more work to write the code for VDJ LE version because it only has the code included that is needed for the supported controller.
It takes MUCHO work to write the code for VDJ Pro version, it supports multiple controllers, supports time coded vinyls and CDs and a ton of other neat-o cool stuff.

Kind of like when you buy a car, you can't buy the V8 version with navigation and voice-recognition for the same price as the V6 with A/C and power windows only. Extra features cost extra money. It's called business and Atomix/VDJ runs a great one.

You didn't do the research and now you are disgruntled, get over it and get on with it. You'll feel better.
 
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