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hi guys

Im working in a club that wants me to change the song every 3 mins all night long for a 10 hour set.

iv been looking at the watchdog plugin witch looks good for the job in hand but it looks like i need a pro licence to try it.

so heres what im asking before i buy the software will the plugin automix the songs at 3 mins all night for me when i have it on fadein and fadeout with a 8 sec automix ?


thanks


rory
 
Posted Mon 15 Apr 13 @ 6:11 pm
The author would be best placed to answer that, but if it doesn't it would be trivial for me to create you one that does.

These kind of plugins require Pro Full however; Basic and Broadcaster won't work.
 
Hey SBDJ

i would be interested in a plug-in like that if it was to become available.. :-)

regards
 
rorydmiller wrote :
hi guys

Im working in a club that wants me to change the song every 3 mins all night long for a 10 hour set.

iv been looking at the watchdog plugin witch looks good for the job in hand but it looks like i need a pro licence to try it.

so heres what im asking before i buy the software will the plugin automix the songs at 3 mins all night for me when i have it on fadein and fadeout with a 8 sec automix ?


thanks


rory

Since I am the Author of the lug-in let me clarify you how it works:

It checks the track's ELAPSED time. When the ELAPSED time gets bigger than the interval you have specified it will send a "mix_now" command on the deck that's on automix mode.

The exact time of the track on air can't be guaranteed, not even determined properly.
For instance if you set the automix to remove the intro/outro of the songs, then VirtualDj will start the playback of the track from a different point on every track. Since the plug-in only checks the ELAPSED time, the "on-air" time will have a varying length but it will always be SMALLER (or equal) to the time-out interval.

I hope this info helps you!

PS: Yes the plug-in can work all night long, as soon as all it does is that it sends a "mix_now" command. It won't turn off / reset when a new track is loaded on your automix deck since it's an "Other" type plug-in. ("Other" type plug-ins stay constantly on memory)
 
I think the management are been totally harsh on you, and I bet the audience will soon get tired of this music policy, they'll just be getting into a track and then they'll be taken into the next. Dumbest management decision I have heard in a long time. Best of luck with it.
 
tayla wrote :
I think the management are been totally harsh on you, and I bet the audience will soon get tired of this music policy, they'll just be getting into a track and then they'll be taken into the next. Dumbest management decision I have heard in a long time. Best of luck with it.


I wasn't gonna say anything but the next step they'll take after that is to wonder where all the customers went or why they even need a dj.

if I was you i'd be looking for a new venue the second they said that.

and tayla? I got some horror stories I could tell you that would make your headphones melt.
 
They could do that with a Rolec and not have you there at all.

10 hours is a long shift for you to sit and watch VDJ doing all the work.

Keith
 
Other thing you could do is use a macro software to press the mix now key every three minutes.
 
Thing is Wild, with this dumb ass policy the punters will think it is the guy on the decks just mashing everything up, not the numb nut management driving this policy through.

I'd definitely be having a meeting with whoever suggested this and explain it will loose an awful lot of footfall through the doors in a short space of time, personally I would walk from such a restrictive practise.

I'm hired on reputation and that is not going to do the business or myself any favours.

Even a jukebox would be no good to them... lol.
 
rorydmiller wrote :
Im working in a club that wants me to change the song every 3 mins all night long for a 10 hour set.


You are not working ... you are looking for a solution that will do the work of an entertainment host (i.e. D.J.) for you.

VirtualDJ is not the type of software you are looking to do what you are asking. VirtualDJ is an application for working DJs.

Yes, VirtualDJ has 'automation' capabilities and tools that will enhance a DJ's set/session.

VirtualDJ is not THE DJ - it is the DJ's tool to get the job done. So, if you are interested in "BEING the DJ" for this club, then mix the tracks every three minutes as they have requested. If you are simply a bartender/bar-back/host/hostess that is looking for an automation tool then there are hundreds out there to choose from.
 
hi guys

seems i should fill you in on a little more on what i do and what kind of club im working in.

The club its self is a lap dancing club and we all know what happens in a lap dancing club lol any how each dance sold by a dancer only last for 3 min unless its a 2 4 1 so when the girl starts the dance she starts with the start of the song and finishs with the song. Also the girl on stage is only on for 2 songs IE 6 min.

So now you see why i have to change the song every 3 mins (200 times over 10 hours) I need the auto mix so i can change the lights and pull the fader back when i need to use the mic witch in my case is every 6 min (100 times a night).

so you can see why i need a auto mixer that changes songs every 3 mins but will also auto min shorter tracks as the 241 jingle is only 1:30 long

thanks

rory
 
@ SBDJ

if you could make me a custem plugin for this job that would be great. How would be the best way to get in contact with you direct ?
 
so the club specializes in gents who only need 3 minutes...

charge extra at the door and give out Viagra.


the owners need to pull their heads out of their ass and wallet. I have never worked at or been to a strip club that puts that kind of restriction on the dancers or music. if they think the girls are spending too much time on any one particular customer, then they should either counsel the girl to keep it shorter or rotate them like tires. just like a dance club - you have to keep things changing but in a way the customers will appreciate - you rotate the dance floor to sell alcohol, so rotate the girls like music, but DON'T do it too quick. especially if you have "star" dancers or club favorites that all the guys like.
any club like that worth a damn has a stable of girls who rotate around among the various stations whether it be floor, stage, main stage, bar, or even in the back to take a break, so that they don't get too worn out and tired. and for the love of god let them pick their own music and times to do their thing, whether its a full routine they choreographed themselves or a special request for birthdays or bachelor party.

but seriously - a set in stone time limit is gonna seriously piss off customers. add alcohol to that and you gonna have issues.
 
hi ya fella

the 3 min is a industry standard for all lap dancing clubs the custemers ant really there for the music its not what they are there for. the dancers all pick there own songs for they stage act. im thinking you never been involed in anything like this in any shape or form.

Im only looking to use VDJ cos it has 2 decks so i can cheak the songs to make sure they are up beat and lively as some people have difrents thoughts on what this is lol


rory
 
hmm.. lets see: 5 years experience filling in at various gentlemen's clubs in 2 states as an on-call relief, more years than I care to remember as a patron, even more years having to take clients to various clubs for "business entertainment" both when I was working in radio and nightclub.

might just know what i'm talking about.

3 minutes might be an industry standard in your neck of the woods but not around here.
 
I think you should just hire two pro DJ's and all will be solved for yeah...

You really have no idea about a lot of other things that need to be done to the music itself in order to pull this off before a plugin could be engaged..
 
Why not make a pre made mix. Do two hours each night and then paste the two hour mixes end to end. You would have a ten hour set by the Friday night. simply play the 10 hour mix while you sit back and get drunk.
 
hmm.. lets see: 5 years experience filling in at various gentlemen's clubs in 2 states as an on-call relief, more years than I care to remember as a patron, even more years having to take clients to various clubs for "business entertainment" both when I was working in radio and nightclub.

might just know what i'm talking about.

3 minutes might be an industry standard in your neck of the woods but not around here.

well here in the UK 3 mins is the alotted time for each song played and theres nuthing i can do about that.

and before anyone else kicks they toys out most songs are only 3:30 any how so no one really cares!

I think you should just hire two pro DJ's and all will be solved for yeah...

You really have no idea about a lot of other things that need to be done to the music itself in order to pull this off before a plugin could be engaged..

its hard enough for clubs to find a dj that can use a min in the uk as anyone can play the music but most dont even know what a mic is let alone how to use one lol

Why not make a pre made mix. Do two hours each night and then paste the two hour mixes end to end. You would have a ten hour set by the Friday night. simply play the 10 hour mix while you sit back and get drunk.

Pre set cds are never used as the girls need to pick there own songs as they look like right plums if they dont know what they are dancing to. And getting drunk is such a bad idea when you djing as what you think is good is not what your crowd wants to hear so im on the coke a cola all night not only that 2 drunk people almost always end up in a fight !!!
 
I hate to say it as I'm a DJ for gentlemen clubs in the UK but if you cant beat them, join them. There is a program out there specifically designed for lap dancing clubs called CoverJock. It cuts every track down to a specified time i.e. 3 minutes and auto fades from one track to the other.

CoverJock can play scheduled announcements, soundfx, 241 offers and better still has a dancers rotation built-in whereby I can store dancers music to their profile so running a 10 hour shift is easy. All I have to do now is make good playlist and ensure the right music is playing at the right time.

The company have bought out another program for lap dancing clubs called BoothPoint. This simplifies custoners paying for a VIP as the dancer is allocated a booth. BoothPoint then tells me at the DJ station who is available on the floor and how long until they are due back. I must admit I hated the idea but it really works and makes my life much easier now.

I still use Virtual DJ when doing party nights to make proper mixes and get the party started so to speak. Thanks VDJ!
 
You can use the automix and set it to enter where you want and leave where you want on each track as you go. Songs you have already done will be set up already. Only takes a sec to set a track up. I do it all the time to step out for a smoke on karaoke nights.
 
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