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Topic: 1/4 beat transform scratching fatigue

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anyone have any tips on minimising fatigue when performing 1/4 beat transforms? plus how to sustain them for 30 seconds +?

also im looking for some info on cutting clearly when performing fast transforms. i seem to be cutting too short and the volume level is being affected.
 
Posted Tue 12 Jul 11 @ 3:10 pm
learn how to do flares, they, are just as fast, but only use half the fader movement, check out "dj angelo 1 click orbit/flares" on youtube for a detailed explination :)
 








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thanks guys, flares and babys i can do. although still need to practice a lot more. the orbit flares i use regularly to produce one of my main pattrns.

the use of 1/4 beat transforms im practicing purely so i can reproduce the effect of using the transform effect on my cdj. ive been playing around with reproducing the same efffect manually using 3/4, 1/2, and 1/4 beat clicks. the 1/4 beat is prooving to be a challenging as my fingers dont move that fast so i have to get a little wrist action on there too. which is becomming quite annoying. maybe i just need to practice more and try to ride the fatigue to improve staminar..

 
im having a little trouble with completing the 4 clicks for each beat. for some reason im missing the final click on the pull back.

i cant work out if this is due to my control hand or my fader hand. have any of you had this problem?

also, any idea why a transform isnt called a 4 click flare?

oh and, im also having troubles keeping the track at a reasonable volume as i scratch the record. im not sure if its something to do with the way im using the fader or i somehow have my mixer set up wrong.

how should i have my eq set up?
 
for flares you want to start and end with the crossfader open, but if you are transforming you start and end with the fader closed, practice the timing of 1 click orbits, then when you can get to 180 - 200 bpm go back to 90 - 100 bpm and try using two fingers instead of one, once you get the action in your muscle memory you can speed it up...

with the crossfader curve, you need it as steep as possible to get quick cuts, and you need to max out your latency as high as you can so the fader movement registers... You can use the inbuilt crossfader curve, but I have never used it... its in config -> options -> crossfader set "scratch"

if that isn't good enough change your crossfader mapping to something like

param_equal 0% ? crossfader 0% : param_equal 100% ? crossfader 100% : crossfader 50%

that should give you a super clean cut

for the eq's you only need to kill the bass on real vinyl as you can hear a drumming when you tap the record, however with digital dj systems this isn't an issue, so I use full bass unless it sounds bad..
 
thanks synth, im using my touch sensitive cdj jog for the scratching. and my external mixer. im doing this to get as much practice down as possible on paterns and techniques before i transfer to trying on my herc.

although im due to recieve my mixtrack pro very soon. so will probably just start using that. thanks for pointing out the difference between transforms and flares, as it happens, ive been doing transforms all along. and not flares as i always fifnish with my fader closed. im looking forward to using my mixtrack so i can invert the fader and practice from both sides of the fader. i find flares easier to do when cutting into deck two on the fader and transforms easier if im clicking from 2 into 1.

i just dont seem to have my right hand up to scratch with track control. the fader use with my left hand isnt too bad but hay ho..plenty of time to practice is all i need.

another question also, is i often see scratch dj's flicking 3 rapid succession fingers onto the fader to make 3 cuts, how is this achieved? my thumb doesnt respond that quickly.
 
its all about having a light touch, when I first tied scratching i used a really firm grip on the fader as I thought I had to move it as fast as I could against it's will, but what you will find is the more you practice doing it loosely the more fluid the movement becomes, but start with the timing of 1 click flares, I practiced that for about a week solid before moving on to 2 click flares, where you build the timing futher and loosen up you thumbs, finally I wouldn't even think of doing crabs (3 click flares) on a mixtrack pro, you will only ruin the crossfader... these should be left to mixers that have a professional crossfader like penny and giles, or innofader for after market faders that can be easily replaced...
 


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