gouvras
Kalispera 3erw pws uparxoun 24 keys major and manor kai ok exw px to mixed in key kai mixarw analoga me to key p mou dinei t programma.. Oson afora tn anthrwpino paragwda pws boreis na katalaveis oti px afto pou paizei einai A13 kai pws tha vreis kommati pou na einai A14 i A12 i B13??? ok merika tragoudia kanoun bam eite ta beat eite o tonos kanei bam alla boreis na mixaris teliws armonika mono me t afti s?
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 12:44 pm
PhantomDeejay
Φυσικά και γίνεται μόνο με το αυτί σου, αλλά χρειάζεσαι γνώσεις αρμονιάς... κοινώς ένα-δύο χρονάκια στο ωδείο :)
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 12:59 pm
apopsisdj
Kamia fora "to xeis" kai xoris odeio... aplws to katalabaineis, etsi apla.
Den ksero an einai h empeiria i kapoia parapano aisthisi aneptigmeni.
To paratirisa ston eayto mou pos tis perisoteres fores otan epilego kommati "me to ayti", an koitaxw sta key einai symbata kai ekei.
H epeksergasia exei ginei apo prin sto cpu tou egkefalou... kai asynesthita.
Omos eleipsis gnosis theorias den mporo na katalabo ti key einai mono me to ayti.
Enas mousikos mporei na ta kanei kai ta dyo.
Den ksero an einai h empeiria i kapoia parapano aisthisi aneptigmeni.
To paratirisa ston eayto mou pos tis perisoteres fores otan epilego kommati "me to ayti", an koitaxw sta key einai symbata kai ekei.
H epeksergasia exei ginei apo prin sto cpu tou egkefalou... kai asynesthita.
Omos eleipsis gnosis theorias den mporo na katalabo ti key einai mono me to ayti.
Enas mousikos mporei na ta kanei kai ta dyo.
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 1:12 pm
gouvras
nai ontws kapoia kommatia ta akous oti pigainoun i oti dn pigainoun... Alla boreis na eisai 100% swstos? dld den pistevw na akougete polu ''kakoixo'' ena kommati A12 me ena A 10 gia paradeigma...
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 2:40 pm
vlakasman
Sunh8ws to koino pou ta akouei ta songs dn exei kalutero auti apo tn dj...
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 3:08 pm
PhantomDeejay
Πέρα απο τις τεχνικές λεπτομέρειες... μιξάρεις συχνά basslines και vocals? Γιατί αν περιορίζεσαι σε μίξεις beatmatch όπου τουλάχιστον το ένα track είναι "καθαρό" (μόνο drums) τότε τα κλειδιά δεν παίζουν κανένα ρόλο... Πάντως ο περισσότερος τουλάχιστον κόσμος ΔΕΝ προσέχει τις μίξεις των dj και κατά πόσο ταιριάζουν τα κλειδιά... Αν θες να κάνεις remix - mash up σε real-time τότε ναι οκ και ο κόσμος θα προσέξει και τα κλειδιά παίζουν μεγάλο ρόλο αλλά αν θες απλά να κάνεις μίξεις τότε τα κλειδιά είναι για τους djs και ελάχιστους ψαγμένους ακροατές....
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 3:44 pm
djsonath
gouvras wrote :
nai ontws kapoia kommatia ta akous oti pigainoun i oti dn pigainoun... Alla boreis na eisai 100% swstos? dld den pistevw na akougete polu ''kakoixo'' ena kommati A12 me ena A 10 gia paradeigma...
100% mono me to ayti den mporeis na eisai, ektos an eisai apogonos toy Motsart.
Kapoia kommatia tariazoyn kai as einai me allh tonikothta.
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 3:48 pm
fenderisc
Epeidh kapoioi einai asxetoi den shmainei oti tha tous akolouthisoume...to harmonic mixing einai megalh istoria..kai an ginei swsta einai yperoxo kai gia to koino kai sigoura texnika anevazei poly ton dj...kapoia stigmh to dokimasa kai me ellinika,eidika sta zempekika einai wraia fash
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 3:48 pm
PhantomDeejay
gouvras wrote :
dld den pistevw na akougete polu ''kakoixo'' ena kommati A12 me ena A 10 gia paradeigma...
Σε αντίθεση με άλλα πράγματα που έχουν αριθμούς στην μουσική, τα μουσικά κλειδιά στην "κλίμακα" του Camelot δεν ακολουθούν τους μαθηματικούς κανόνες. Δηλαδή η διαφορά τους σε αριθμητική τιμή δεν δείχνει πάντα πόσο κοντά είναι το ένα κλειδί στο άλλο μουσικά...
Μπορεί πχ το Α12 να είναι πιο κοντά σε αρμονική μίξη με το Α5 παρά με το Α8. Αν πραγματικά σε ενδιαφέρουν τόσο πολύ τα κλειδιά τότε καλό θα είναι να διαβάσεις λίγη μουσική θεωρεία, να μάθεις τα κλειδιά με τα κανονικά τους ονόμα Em Fm κτλ, τις αντιστοιχίες Majore/Minore (ειδικά αυτό είναι πολύ εύκολο) και τους κανόνες μετάβασης απο κλειδί σε κλειδί κτλπ...
Edit:
Υ.Γ.: Δεν είμαι κατά της μίξης με κλειδιά, ούτε είναι "χαμένος" κόπος. Απλά ελάχιστοι καταλαβαίνουν τη διαφορά και αυτό γιατί το ελληνικό κοινό πάσχει απο μουσική παιδεία (μουσική παιδεία <> μουσικές γνώσεις)
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 3:54 pm
apopsisdj
vlakasman wrote :
Sunh8ws to koino pou ta akouei ta songs dn exei kalutero auti apo tn dj...
Den einai panta etsi, pistepse me... an katalabaineis ti ennow !
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 4:09 pm
vlakasman
vlakasman wrote :
Sunh8ws to koino pou ta akouei ta songs dn exei kalutero auti apo tn dj...
Den einai panta etsi, pistepse me... an katalabaineis ti ennow !
Den einai panta etsi, pistepse me... an katalabaineis ti ennow !
Egw h8ela na pw oti to koino ekeinh tn stigmh p 8a akousei tn allagh 8a vlepei to gomenaki apenanti,8a xei piei ena poto parapanw ktl ktl opote mia mikrh diafora sto kleidh oxi vevaia apo la na pame se si h kati antistoixo,alla diafora mia dieshs(#) dn 8a tn prose3ei...Auto pistevw egw...
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 4:16 pm
vlakasman
Kai mn 3exnate oti mporoume anapasa stigmh na alla3oume ligo ton tono tou song st VDJ me to sugekrimeno effect kai sta cdj apenergoipoiwntas to MT kounontas ligo panw - katw to pitch,patwntas MT sto shmeio p 8eloume tn sugekrimeno tono kai meta kratwntas tn idio tono kouname eleu8era panw - katw to pitch se osa BPM 8eloume.!Vevaia etsi kanoume mikres au3omoiwseis ston tono tn song gia na mn akoustei polu megalh h diafora gt oso na nai an alla3oume polu tn tono tou tragoudiou 8a akoustei asxhma.Etsi ligo panw tou enos - ligo to katw tou allou kai balantzarete h douleia!
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 4:27 pm
apopsisdj
PhantomDeejay wrote :
Υ.Γ.: Δεν είμαι κατά της μίξης με κλειδιά, ούτε είναι "χαμένος" κόπος. Απλά ελάχιστοι καταλαβαίνουν τη διαφορά και αυτό γιατί το ελληνικό κοινό πάσχει απο μουσική παιδεία (μουσική παιδεία <> μουσικές γνώσεις)
Υ.Γ.: Δεν είμαι κατά της μίξης με κλειδιά, ούτε είναι "χαμένος" κόπος. Απλά ελάχιστοι καταλαβαίνουν τη διαφορά και αυτό γιατί το ελληνικό κοινό πάσχει απο μουσική παιδεία (μουσική παιδεία <> μουσικές γνώσεις)
Edo min ksexname : -pos kai gia poius- paizoume...
Analoga me to ti kosmo exeis apennanti kai ti perimenoun apo sena allazeis tropo paiksimatos kai prosarmozesai sto lepto.
(ektos an exeis paei ekei guest, kai peis paidia ...ego ayta paizo, den me endiaferei...ok to teleytaio den to les..)
Diladi an o kosmos thelei na diaskedasei kai esy to "psyrizeis" kai psaxneis pio tragoudi kolaei armonika me to proigoumeno, kai prospernas ola ta sigoura xartia epeidi den tairiazoun (eite armonika, eite beatmatch) eisai entelos lathos kai tha to katalabeis apo tis antidraseis. An pali exeis pio "piotiko" h ekpaideymeno koino kai tous pernas karfota oti-nanai eno se pernei na tous "taksidepseis" armonika eisai pali lathos. Kai ayta mporei na syndyazontai kai na ennalasontai ston idio xwro, tin idia bradya.
Kai min ksexname kai to stoixeio tis ekpliksis.
Ena programma/set opos thelete peste to ... oso teleia kai armonika na to pas tha kataliksei kapws bareto sto telos. Tin teleiotita ...tin bariesai eykola. Prepei na ksafniazeis eyxarista ton kosmo, akoma na riskareis me kati pou den perimenei na akousei (kai as fas ta moutra sou kapoies fores) spazontas tin .. armonia..
Ayta kai pros apantisi ston filo gourva kai stis alles erotiseis tou gia to beatmatch... den einai ola beatmatch...
To kommati px, to Planitata... pou rwtas... ksexasmeno simera alla panemorfo, tha to "kapseis" an pas ntou-kou-ntouk na to koliseis me kati.., kai se kosmo pou to akouei proti fora i exei xronia na to akousei.
Ekei kaneis tin ekpliksi pou legame... oxi bebaia otan o allos perimenei na akousei Kiamo na tou baleis ayto, alla kapou noris /arga se kapoio break pou exeis atmosfaira to bazeis apo tin eisagogi pou einai to miso tragoudi ekei.. An deis antapokrisi, ston idio kosmo meta to paizeis aneta kai to mixareis kanonika, mazi me analoga kommatia, alla pali prosoxi pote, giati opos legete kai pio panw, to koino stin ellada den einai kai to pio ekpedeymeno dystoixws. Alla kai kanenas na min to proseksei, tha exeis tin ikanopoihsi feygontas oti stis toses lalakies.. epekses kai ena tetoio kommati.
*Tha diafonisw me ton Leonida (nomizo) pou egrapse oti aytou tou eidous ta kommatia den ta miksareis h den exei simasia.
To pio dimiourgiko kommati mou -se epiloges kai se mixing- ego toulaxiston to kanw panta nwris... miksarontas (sosta omos) ta panta.
Kai ayta pou den perimeneis kai den exoun stathero tempo px rock. Kai mou aresei na ta anakateyw omorfa apodeiknyontas oti h -kali- mousiki einai mia..
Meta pou prepei na paikseis pio meanstream pragmata, einai ola preoblepsima.
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 4:46 pm
leonidassr
dn eipa oti dn ta mixareis, alla oti dn paizei toso shmantiko rolo to beatmatching (opws sthn xoreytikh mousikh) s ayta ta atmosfairika kommatia.
ennow dhladh pws metraei pio poly s aythn thn periptwsh n pathsei swsta to yfos kai to mood tou kommatiou, k oxi toso ta beats. efoson dhladh dn apey8ynontai se "or8io" koino to opoio xorevei, skopos einai n tairiaxeis to sunais8hma k thn dia8esh pou vgazei to ka8e kommati!
ennow dhladh pws metraei pio poly s aythn thn periptwsh n pathsei swsta to yfos kai to mood tou kommatiou, k oxi toso ta beats. efoson dhladh dn apey8ynontai se "or8io" koino to opoio xorevei, skopos einai n tairiaxeis to sunais8hma k thn dia8esh pou vgazei to ka8e kommati!
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 5:01 pm
apopsisdj
..katalaba ti eipes kai den diafono, ego ebala kai mia alli parametro, tin eleytheria pou exoume synithos sta magazia, nwris, kai pos "kleinoum" oi epiloges oso peranei h wra.
Se ayto to stylaki, ligo ambient kai atmosfaira, ligo harmonic mixing (se groups twn 2-3 tragoudiwn), ligo ethnic, ligo house.. +to stoixeio tis ekpliksis pou legame, anazitiste tis sylloges hotel Costes (Mixed By Stephane Pompougnac).
Mou arese kai mou aresei na paizo etsi se kafe, ala opos exoun ginei ta kafe kai o kosmos stin ellada dyskola peraei kai ayto to styl, pia...
Se ayto to stylaki, ligo ambient kai atmosfaira, ligo harmonic mixing (se groups twn 2-3 tragoudiwn), ligo ethnic, ligo house.. +to stoixeio tis ekpliksis pou legame, anazitiste tis sylloges hotel Costes (Mixed By Stephane Pompougnac).
Mou arese kai mou aresei na paizo etsi se kafe, ala opos exoun ginei ta kafe kai o kosmos stin ellada dyskola peraei kai ayto to styl, pia...
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 5:36 pm
Greek Bts
rixe mia matia edw.
http://www.virtualdj.com/images/magazine/Magazine_Issue02_2009.pdf
http://www.virtualdj.com/images/magazine/Magazine_Issue02_2009.pdf
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 5:40 pm
dimitris_tsanak
Proswpika paizw me to key sto idio to kommati gia na to alla3w ligo to rythmo. Sto dia tauta. Den exw asxolhthei pote me thn armonikh mi3h . Gia mena einai san to faghto an balw allati tha bgei almuro an balw piperi tha bgei baru apla to geuomai prin to ftia3w. Kamia fora auto pou ftiaxnw einai kalo alles fores den einai kai toso.Giauto uparxoun kai ta eq :D
Gia barakia den to suzhtame to 99% den akouei kan thn mi3h eite kalh eite kakh.Ektos kai an kaneis ektromata. Gia skuladika kai rnb den suzhtame giati to 90% einai cut mix. Opote milame gia megales armonikes mixeis pou shmainei kai megala komatia? 4lepta+ ? Ekei e3artatai . Prepei na mpeis ligo sth logikh tou tupou pou eftia3e to komati kata thn apopsi mou gia na deis pws exei ftia3ei th dikh tou salata gia na deis an sumfwneis. An den sumfwneis kleise tis mesaies... ekei einai kai to zoumi tou track
An milame gia club ta pragmata allazoun kata poly. Ekei to 80% sigoura tha akousei th mi3h posoi tha thn katalaboun einai ena thema. Opws kai na exei prepei na einai euhxo an kati den aresei se esena apla bres sto poio kanali tou eq einai kai kleisto
Twra tha fugw entelws offtopic alla exw wre3h na ta pw.
Ena allo zhthma gia mena einai pio sumantiko apo ola kai auto sumbouleuw olous tous neous sto xwro. To track selection kai kuriws to build up pou pisteuw oti einai polu shmantikotero apo thn armonikh mi3h. Ti paizeis pote to paizeis me poia seira to paizeis (kai argotera otan to matheis kala kai giati to paizeis :D)
Ekei xolenoun genikws oi ellhnes jockeys. Pisteuoun oti bazontas 30 tsiftetelia tou 1 leptou oti tha tous exoun olous sta trapezia kai pragmati tous exoun alla den katalabainou oti ekanan to megalutero lathos ths bradias. Apla tous kais se mish wra...kai aporeis ma kala epi 30 lepta paizw auta ta xaza kai 3esalosan kai twra pou paizw sigoura xartia einai oloi kathistoi?
Oso pio fast dineis thn plhroforia ston eggefalo toso ton ekpaideueis. Oso poio short einai h mi3h sou toso bombardizeis. Oso poio long einai oi mi3h sou toso afhneis ton allo nabalei ton hxo sto backround kai na coolarei.To thema einai pote bombardizeis, poso bombardizeis kai gia poso bombardizeis. Ekei einai to mustiko kata thn apopsh mou kai h diaforopoihsh tou kalou dj me tou kalou dj pou bgazei kai lefta.
Kai merika tips gia to kapsimo. Gia na apofeuxthei xreiazetai katallhlo warmup. Dhladh na tous ftia3eis siga siga. Otan thewriseis oti tous exeis mhn tous kapseis dwstous 10 lepta bombardismo kai meta xalarwse ligo gia 1-2 kommatia kai meta 3ana. Mono etsi tous kratas kai pinoun kai xoreuoun.Ama tous kapseis tous exases apo pelates. Mporei na katsoun me tis wres alla oute tha xoreuoun oute tha pinoun kai as paizeis esu papades.Kai panta rwta analoga me to pws epe3es ti tameio ekane to magazi. Mono etsi bgazeis akrh pws kai ti phge swsta h lathos.
Tous ekapses kai twra ti ginetai? Twra pas anagkastika se koilia auto pou lene kai sta partys tou e3wterikou deep groove. Rixtous 2-3 komatia na 3enerwsoun (sta ellhnika milame gia zeimpekika alla mixarista oxi oloklhra) kai 3anarxhse me warmup kai oxi 3ulo. Prepei omws na tous 3enerwseis. Oso tous kratas se mesaio mood den prokeitai oute na xorepsoun oute na pioune.Restart loipon.
Thn logikh tou kapsimatos kai deep groove xrhsimopoioysan kai entexna oi kaloi jockeys se club styl bareladiko otan eixe polu kosmo kai polu strimo3idi. Tous kais feugoun oi prwinoi kai petas 2-3 zeimpekika mixarista sth seira giati xoreuei enas kai pinoun poloi kai meta 3ana mikro warmup kai 3ulo mexri to epomeno stathmo se mia wra pou kaneis pali to idio. An den exeis polu kosmo tote douleueis anapoda.
Fusika ena teleutaio alla isws kai prwto sta shmantika einai kai to mood pou theleis kai mporeis na pai3eis me auto. Epeidh einai duskolo na to e3hghsw sth dikh mou mousikh me logia (giati sunhthws den exei) tha prospathisw na to thesw sta ellhnika. Den mporeis na paizeis tragoudia tou stul "me xwrise o dikos mou kai den 3erw pou na paw" mixarontas me to "ti kala pou pername tralala" .
Apo prwsopikh mou ektimhsh to mood (diathesh,palmo h opws alliws thelete peite to )einai kai auto pou epilegei o kosmos sthn telikh.Kathe fora gia to monadiko pragma pou me kateutheinei einai to mood. To kalo einai oti otan to breis kai niwtheis oti tous exeis meta mporeis esu na tous alla3eis mood kai auto einai sthn telikh kai o stoxos tou jockey kata thn apopsh mou.
Gia barakia den to suzhtame to 99% den akouei kan thn mi3h eite kalh eite kakh.Ektos kai an kaneis ektromata. Gia skuladika kai rnb den suzhtame giati to 90% einai cut mix. Opote milame gia megales armonikes mixeis pou shmainei kai megala komatia? 4lepta+ ? Ekei e3artatai . Prepei na mpeis ligo sth logikh tou tupou pou eftia3e to komati kata thn apopsi mou gia na deis pws exei ftia3ei th dikh tou salata gia na deis an sumfwneis. An den sumfwneis kleise tis mesaies... ekei einai kai to zoumi tou track
An milame gia club ta pragmata allazoun kata poly. Ekei to 80% sigoura tha akousei th mi3h posoi tha thn katalaboun einai ena thema. Opws kai na exei prepei na einai euhxo an kati den aresei se esena apla bres sto poio kanali tou eq einai kai kleisto
Twra tha fugw entelws offtopic alla exw wre3h na ta pw.
Ena allo zhthma gia mena einai pio sumantiko apo ola kai auto sumbouleuw olous tous neous sto xwro. To track selection kai kuriws to build up pou pisteuw oti einai polu shmantikotero apo thn armonikh mi3h. Ti paizeis pote to paizeis me poia seira to paizeis (kai argotera otan to matheis kala kai giati to paizeis :D)
Ekei xolenoun genikws oi ellhnes jockeys. Pisteuoun oti bazontas 30 tsiftetelia tou 1 leptou oti tha tous exoun olous sta trapezia kai pragmati tous exoun alla den katalabainou oti ekanan to megalutero lathos ths bradias. Apla tous kais se mish wra...kai aporeis ma kala epi 30 lepta paizw auta ta xaza kai 3esalosan kai twra pou paizw sigoura xartia einai oloi kathistoi?
Oso pio fast dineis thn plhroforia ston eggefalo toso ton ekpaideueis. Oso poio short einai h mi3h sou toso bombardizeis. Oso poio long einai oi mi3h sou toso afhneis ton allo nabalei ton hxo sto backround kai na coolarei.To thema einai pote bombardizeis, poso bombardizeis kai gia poso bombardizeis. Ekei einai to mustiko kata thn apopsh mou kai h diaforopoihsh tou kalou dj me tou kalou dj pou bgazei kai lefta.
Kai merika tips gia to kapsimo. Gia na apofeuxthei xreiazetai katallhlo warmup. Dhladh na tous ftia3eis siga siga. Otan thewriseis oti tous exeis mhn tous kapseis dwstous 10 lepta bombardismo kai meta xalarwse ligo gia 1-2 kommatia kai meta 3ana. Mono etsi tous kratas kai pinoun kai xoreuoun.Ama tous kapseis tous exases apo pelates. Mporei na katsoun me tis wres alla oute tha xoreuoun oute tha pinoun kai as paizeis esu papades.Kai panta rwta analoga me to pws epe3es ti tameio ekane to magazi. Mono etsi bgazeis akrh pws kai ti phge swsta h lathos.
Tous ekapses kai twra ti ginetai? Twra pas anagkastika se koilia auto pou lene kai sta partys tou e3wterikou deep groove. Rixtous 2-3 komatia na 3enerwsoun (sta ellhnika milame gia zeimpekika alla mixarista oxi oloklhra) kai 3anarxhse me warmup kai oxi 3ulo. Prepei omws na tous 3enerwseis. Oso tous kratas se mesaio mood den prokeitai oute na xorepsoun oute na pioune.Restart loipon.
Thn logikh tou kapsimatos kai deep groove xrhsimopoioysan kai entexna oi kaloi jockeys se club styl bareladiko otan eixe polu kosmo kai polu strimo3idi. Tous kais feugoun oi prwinoi kai petas 2-3 zeimpekika mixarista sth seira giati xoreuei enas kai pinoun poloi kai meta 3ana mikro warmup kai 3ulo mexri to epomeno stathmo se mia wra pou kaneis pali to idio. An den exeis polu kosmo tote douleueis anapoda.
Fusika ena teleutaio alla isws kai prwto sta shmantika einai kai to mood pou theleis kai mporeis na pai3eis me auto. Epeidh einai duskolo na to e3hghsw sth dikh mou mousikh me logia (giati sunhthws den exei) tha prospathisw na to thesw sta ellhnika. Den mporeis na paizeis tragoudia tou stul "me xwrise o dikos mou kai den 3erw pou na paw" mixarontas me to "ti kala pou pername tralala" .
Apo prwsopikh mou ektimhsh to mood (diathesh,palmo h opws alliws thelete peite to )einai kai auto pou epilegei o kosmos sthn telikh.Kathe fora gia to monadiko pragma pou me kateutheinei einai to mood. To kalo einai oti otan to breis kai niwtheis oti tous exeis meta mporeis esu na tous alla3eis mood kai auto einai sthn telikh kai o stoxos tou jockey kata thn apopsh mou.
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 7:13 pm
leonidassr
@ apopsis: etsi symfwnw apolyta!!
@ dimitris: symfwnw epishs....!
@ dimitris: symfwnw epishs....!
Posted Mon 30 Aug 10 @ 7:17 pm
D.J.John Live In The Mix
Mpravo vre Dimitri...Pesta.....
SOSTOS!!!
SOSTOS!!!
Posted Tue 31 Aug 10 @ 3:33 am
vlakasman
@ Dimitris.Akou ti epa8a,mia mera eixe ena filos m gene8lia kai m leei fere to laptop s na pai3eis...Eixame paei pio prin se mia pitsaria gia faghto kai meta se ena kleisto xwro san apo8hkh opou eixame ferei pota k hxeia kai eixame ftia3ei atmosfera.Egw loipon efuga 10 lepta pio prin gia na paw na anoi3w to pc na sundesw hxeia,na testarw tn hxo ktl ktl kai perimena na er8oun kai oi upoloipoi...Otan hr8an loipon m kanei to paidi kleise tn mousikh kai ela mazi m na feroume ta pota.Tn kleinw kai gw(malakia m eprepe na xa valei loop) kai feugw.Molis ta fernoume loipon m leei 3ekina alla me ena polu dinato kommati...Telos pantwn warm up dn ekana kai apo tn arxh arxisan xoreuan epinan klp..Kai se kapoia fash skeftika(meta apo 1-1.30 wres astamathtou xorou),na tous 3enerwsw ligo kai na tous "pw" emmesa ka8iste kai meta pali.Kai akouw apo mia kopela eeeee vgale tn papara,ftia3e mas...!An auto ginotan se kanoniko club to sigouro einai oti sto 2-3o tragoudi t warm up p 8a ekana 8a xan fugei oi perissoteroi gt eipan oti da3ei autos edwse oti htan na dwsei twra paizei 3enerwta ade pame kai apo dipla...!
Posted Tue 31 Aug 10 @ 4:10 am
