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Topic: Related Tracks Feature is now in Early Release - Page: 4
Hi, I love how VDJ develops. Thank you all! 👍
Since I requested a similar feature some month ago (song cluster) I am happy to see the evolution. But why does it have to be that complicated? I wish I could just mark some songs in the browser/sidelist/automix and link them with a right click option. If you click on one of the tracks you can see the list of others linked with that in the "Linked" tab. If a track has to be added to or deleted from that link-list you just act like you used to in other lists in the sideview (shortcut or right click).
This kind of behaves like a playlist that is instantly shown whenever you chose a track (but is not saved separately). Or do I miss something?
 
kradcliffe wrote :
I've not had a chance to test this feature yet, but does it do automatic linking based on history as that's what I imagined it to do?


I am waiting for the same thing.
 
Wait no longer.

Your wish is here ! !

Automatic linking based on History has been included, in Linked Tracks since EA build 7903

Quote :
BUILD 7903 (2024-02-14)
-Include recommendations from History in linked tracks folder





current EA 7921
 
Had a play about yesterday and noticed the history section contains audio tracks even if they are disabled in browser to show video only.

Not sure if that's by design or not ........
 
user18829647 wrote :
This is awesome, great work!!!!

Does linking feel back to front to anyone else. For example if you want Track 1 to be a direct link to Track 2 you currently have to right click on Track 2's Album art and click Link. In my head it makes more sense to right click on the track you want direct linked? Or maybe I'm think of it in the wrong way and someone can help me.


I agree. I think the use of "direct" and "indirect" isn't the clearest or most intuitive. I think it would be great if you could just select either track and select "link before track x" or "link after track x."
 
Can anyone else confirm that the "linked tracks" feature is 'not working' in Early Access Build 8225 ?

It was working for me in the previous release, but not in b8225.
 
iamanotheryou wrote :
Can anyone else confirm that the "linked tracks" feature is 'not working' in Early Access Build 8225 ?
It was working for me in the previous release, but not in b8225.


I agree with you, the function "linked tracks" worked very well up to VirtualDJ version 7921, but from VirtualDJ version 8000 up to the latest version there are always problems. I have complained about this several times but nobody at Atomix cares.
For the reasons stated here, I'm sticking with version 7921!!!!!!!
 
What is not working?

Works well here.



(though I have to admit, do not have a lot of linked tracks, yet, still enjoying the Sticky addon, till there is a way to query if a track has, Links, which can easily done with Sticky)




Win 10
ver 8225
 
Benz Werner wrote :

I agree with you, the function "linked tracks" worked very well up to VirtualDJ version 7921, ...


Phew...someone else also experiences something similar.
I thought I was going crazy, because I swear, a few versions ago, the "linked" section would always show some tracks, however I see nothing now.

There would be a track playing in Deck 1, but it does not trigger the "linked" section to show any tracks, and this is noticeable. I'm just hobbying around at home, so this 'missing feature' doesn't impact me, but thought I would ask on this Forums.

Thanks.
 
IIDEEJAYII wrote :
What is not working?


When I restart VirtualDJ no linked track is displayed.
Then I have to click from linked tracks to "alternative remixes" and back again several times in the browser, then I have to restart VirtualDJ and the linked tracks are all there.
But if I now link additional tracks, they are not update.
 
Are you using it for results from the browser or from the deck?
Also, is it only linked tracks not showing, or the history results also not showing?
 
I'm seeing the same issue as others with a delay in linked tracks loading, which I don't recall having when the feature first came out (reported here: https://www.virtualdj.com/forums/259314/VirtualDJ_Technical_Support/Related_tracks_take_time_to_load_in_sideview.html)

"Hello! I am seeing a delay for the sideview's linked tracks window to populate on starting VDJ, even when there are no linked tracks ("No linked tracks" takes time to appear). Additionally, the windows doesn't populate until after ~25 seconds of playing a track, and then it'll work as expected from there. Linked tracks source is set to active deck. If I set source to browser and select a track, the linked tracks will remain blank. If I set it to active deck, play a track for 20-30s until the linked tracks load, and then set it back to browser, the data appears.

To summarize: on VDJ start, linked track data is only loading when source is active deck and a track plays for 20-30 seconds, after which everything behaves as normal.

I don't recall this load time being there in the past. If there must be a loading time, could 1. the load always be triggered from start instead of having to play a track with source=active deck and 2. could the sideview window have placeholder text to indicate what's happening (ex. "Loading linked tracks database")?

Issue persists after restarting PC. Windows 10, v2024 b8220.

Thanks!"
 
Adion wrote :
Are you using it for results from the browser or from the deck?
Also, is it only linked tracks not showing, or the history results also not showing?


I use the results of the browser and the decks, they are always displayed only after a long time of clicking back and forth.
Likewise, no history titles are displayed initially.
 
Was able to find a situation where Linked Tracks panel reproducibly stays blank.
(which could be interpreted as Linked Tracks not working)

1) Have the Sideview set to Linked Tab, then restart VDJ,
(the sideview, "Linked Tab" is highlighted, selected after restart)

2) before loading deck (or playing), use the Linked Tracks menu button to select pointer to "Browser"

3) Enable Quick filter to find linked tracks in the browser, (Not necessary if one knows which tracks to select) and select a track.

4) Linked tracks panel remains empty.. Blank.

5) click on the Linked tab (the one with is just right of Sidelist) and tab that was active when before the restart of VDJ. (the one that was also showing as active, and that we just used menu button in step 2)
Again, the Linked Tracks panel remains EMPTY, BLANK.

6) select any other tab, (Sidelist tab, for example) then select the Linked tab again.
Linked tracks and History appear instantly.



Note:
The same reproducible results, if the Additional "Linked" tab (created with sideviewShortcuts geniusdj:\linked) was selected in step 1, before the restart.



This would is more of an issue, for those using the Linked Tab extensively, since otherwise, the click to select the sideview, Linked tab, would enable the Linked tab to work perfectly.
 
Hi IIDEEJAYII
The procedure you describe here (to make it work) is, in my opinion, totally crazy and absolutely unusable.
Until this is improved, no DJ will actually use it.
 
I was not suggesting the procedure to be used..

Posted it so that the Devs can reproduce it,
(and give it the needed tweak, so it works smoothly.)


And good to know, indirectly, that you can also reproduce it ..
(not just my install)




PS
and until it has been fixed.. just clicking away and back to the Linked tab, allows the Linked tab to work, till the next restart of VDJ.
 
IIDEEJAYII wrote :
I was not suggesting the procedure to be used..

Posted it so that the Devs can reproduce it,
(and give it the needed tweak, so it works smoothly.)


And good to know, indirectly, that you can also reproduce it ..
(not just my install)




PS
and until it has been fixed.. just clicking away and back to Linked tab allows the Linked tab to work, till the next restart of VDJ.


+1 (Your description of the process is exactly right, it is exactly the same for me)
I am curious if Atomix will finally change something because the problem has been around for a
long time
 
Atomix (VDJ) is amazingly fast at fixing everything that they are aware of.

And thank you for finding, and reporting... the first step.

And soon, this issue will indeed be gone.


VDJ is the BEST !
 
The problem still exists with the new version 4241.
If VirtualDJ has not been active for a while and you restart it the same problem still exists.
Only after switching several times is "linked tracks" updated.
 
So we are talking about the linked tracks right? (Not the history results)
And you have the problem with 'browser' or 'deck' selected?
Does the title shown in the sideview header change immediately?
 
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