kradcliffe
Yeah, a nice easter egg and it works perfectly too.
Posted Sun 30 Apr 23 @ 10:25 am
locoDog
No not a fan of the idea [AI automix, not get_food], personal opinion; it's not art, it's not personalised, and it has zero spontaneity.
If I was going to throw a load of tensor cores towards a task, I'd aim it a track suggestion in practice, let it cook overnight let it try everything into everything and what doesn't clash rhythmically, harmonically, vocals over vocals, I'd want a 32 bar sample made to pass my own judgement. But I'm talking main into main, because intro outro has always been boring to me, +1/2 hour at the same bpm is boring to me unless there's 3 tunes in the mix.
I suppose punters see it different, but I'm driving and I like to take them places they don't usually go.
photography didn't kill painting, it lead to more abstract work, but prompting a set just feels like it will just lead to mediocrity, it will keep the floor moving but the floor is usually hammered.
automix is to djing as ikea furniture is to carpentry.
If I was going to throw a load of tensor cores towards a task, I'd aim it a track suggestion in practice, let it cook overnight let it try everything into everything and what doesn't clash rhythmically, harmonically, vocals over vocals, I'd want a 32 bar sample made to pass my own judgement. But I'm talking main into main, because intro outro has always been boring to me, +1/2 hour at the same bpm is boring to me unless there's 3 tunes in the mix.
I suppose punters see it different, but I'm driving and I like to take them places they don't usually go.
photography didn't kill painting, it lead to more abstract work, but prompting a set just feels like it will just lead to mediocrity, it will keep the floor moving but the floor is usually hammered.
automix is to djing as ikea furniture is to carpentry.
Posted Sun 30 Apr 23 @ 10:38 am
djcel
To sum up, DJ is an artist with creativity. Automix is for the moment deterministic and can't surprise people or express emotions.
Posted Sun 30 Apr 23 @ 1:38 pm
burnyabad
djcel wrote :
What could become "automix" in the future based on current innovations (AI), and if we mix different tools? Your DJ /VJ assistant?
You could tell your computer for example:
"create me a party from 11 pm to 4 am, select songs from this style or these playlists or website source, add some visual effects. I want an energy peak each 10min, ...."
Are you ready for this? Is it the good direction? What takes you time and could be automated?
(On one side you have Tools and on the other side you have Services)
You could tell your computer for example:
"create me a party from 11 pm to 4 am, select songs from this style or these playlists or website source, add some visual effects. I want an energy peak each 10min, ...."
Are you ready for this? Is it the good direction? What takes you time and could be automated?
(On one side you have Tools and on the other side you have Services)
In other words, the Venue tells it's software to do a dj set and you as a dj are unemployed. fact: venues will go with the path of least resistance if no other option is available.
Posted Mon 01 May 23 @ 5:12 pm
Michaelj_S_FL
Unless it's an emergency bathroom break... where you CAN NOT hold it.... There's no reason ANY legitimate DJ should use auto mix in his/her club! Sorry, just my opinion. I hear DJ's here in S. FL. even using the "Sync" feature in the software and it drives me crazy. And they use it on the simplest mixes. If you can't MIX correctly, you should not be a DJ, or at least you should learn HOW to mix... whether it's a "Slam" mix, or a "Beat" mix... figure it out and learn!
Posted Mon 01 May 23 @ 8:58 pm
djcel
kradcliffe wrote :
the DJs were plainly using automix as the songs were mixing in unusual places (commensurate with the fade, remove intro/outro) and all with the same fade settings
Maybe more a question for people using automix, but would you like to have new automix modes? I mean based on filter, eq, or now stems, or new fader curves, mix fx? Do you think it could improve the automix? Do you have some other ideas to avoid the basic fade?
Posted Tue 02 May 23 @ 3:34 am
IIDEEJAYII
locodog wrote :
automix is to djing as ikea furniture is to carpentry.
OR:
Automix is to DJing as a Player piano is to a Concert Pianist.
I use automix all the time to prelisten to new tracks while doing other things. And I would love to have more/better automix features, so its easier on a DJ's ears.
Posted Tue 02 May 23 @ 4:59 am
sureview
Can we just rename automix to 'toilet break' and be done with this lol
Posted Tue 16 May 23 @ 5:41 am
wildcountryclub
no cause then someone will start calling it the 'sh*tlist" and it will cause even more confusion when people says it's crappy music and then it will all start to hit the fan(s?)
Posted Tue 16 May 23 @ 10:19 am
tangotonyb
It's a question of what's important.
I think that most of the public couldn't give a rat's ass whether a mix is wonderful or there's a gap between tracks (i.e. no mix), in fact some people will prefer the latter.
I suspect it's now quite possible to configure all your tracks and write software to produce playlists that with the help of automix ALWAYS produces a perfectly mixed set - likely better than 95% of DJ's could do live. But it would lack a few things....
1) Track selection - if you could simply prepare a playlist in advance then there'd be no point in DJ's at all and there'd be a business in selling pre-recorded sets to venues. But track selection, at the event matters. You also have things such as requests to consider.
2) Physical presence - people NEED to see a DJ there. Heck if you DID want to setup a mix in advance and leave it playing, there'd be a lot of value in paying some pleb to sit in front of the mixer, pretending to mix it live. People want a show, not just the sound. I know from talking to people that if they see a DJ is often away from the desk and they know they're listening to a playlist, they're much more likely to look disfavourably on the track selections. It's because they feel that the DJ is not giving them full service.
I think that most of the public couldn't give a rat's ass whether a mix is wonderful or there's a gap between tracks (i.e. no mix), in fact some people will prefer the latter.
I suspect it's now quite possible to configure all your tracks and write software to produce playlists that with the help of automix ALWAYS produces a perfectly mixed set - likely better than 95% of DJ's could do live. But it would lack a few things....
1) Track selection - if you could simply prepare a playlist in advance then there'd be no point in DJ's at all and there'd be a business in selling pre-recorded sets to venues. But track selection, at the event matters. You also have things such as requests to consider.
2) Physical presence - people NEED to see a DJ there. Heck if you DID want to setup a mix in advance and leave it playing, there'd be a lot of value in paying some pleb to sit in front of the mixer, pretending to mix it live. People want a show, not just the sound. I know from talking to people that if they see a DJ is often away from the desk and they know they're listening to a playlist, they're much more likely to look disfavourably on the track selections. It's because they feel that the DJ is not giving them full service.
Posted Tue 16 May 23 @ 2:29 pm
kradcliffe
user27208355 wrote :
Ivalue in paying some pleb to sit in front of the mixer, pretending to mix it live.
That's exactly what's happening and the whole point of this discussion.
Posted Tue 16 May 23 @ 3:05 pm
tangotonyb
You've missed my point.
Posted Tue 16 May 23 @ 3:32 pm
groovindj
Michaelj_S_FL wrote :
I hear DJ's.......using the "Sync" feature
Hmmm, I'm curious. How can you hear DJs using sync? in VDJ for example, pressing sync simply sets the BPM of the deck to that of the other deck. It doesn't mix tracks together.
Posted Tue 16 May 23 @ 5:31 pm