TVD UK
Is there a way to batch analyse online music playlists, only seems to scan one?
Posted Tue 27 Oct 20 @ 5:28 pm
FunctionDJ
I don't think so because that would require downloading all of the songs, which i don't think the streaming service providers allow in their contracts with the software manufacturers. Should work for downloaded songs though (e.g. BeatSource, iDJPool). Correct me if i'm wrong.
Posted Tue 27 Oct 20 @ 8:54 pm
groovindj
That's correct. You can't batch analyse something that's not on your computer. It's a streaming service. The tracks can't be analysed remotely.
Posted Tue 27 Oct 20 @ 10:57 pm
TVD UK
So is that the case with all software?
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:07 am
ADJ Scotland
Both Rekordbox and Serato can batch analyse playlists from Beatport LINK with no issues. Plus - why doesn't VDJ just use the keys from Beatport if this is the case for VDJ?
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:12 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
VirtualDJ can analyze multiple where download to cache is supported
(Beatport, SoundCloud, iDJPool etc)
(Beatport, SoundCloud, iDJPool etc)
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:16 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
Here is a batch analyze with Soundcloud for example
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:18 am
TVD UK
It is Beatport for me that it is not doing it with
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:23 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
TVD UK wrote :
It is Beatport for me it is not doing it.
You have Beatport with cache (aka, download) ?
The LINK comes in 3 variants.. Link (no cache), Link Pro (50 songs), Link Pro+ (100 songs).
Didnt try with Beatport, the feature might be limited, or not available, since Beatport dont allow download songs with cheapest sub, and few songs with the other subs.
And obviously to be able to analyze anything, the file needs to be available (downloaded) first ;-) (if batch download is available, analyze could also be)
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:25 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
And all songs ever played on decks, are remembered (and analyzed)
So can just load the songs to deck.. Not quite batch analyze, but will grow with content played
So can just load the songs to deck.. Not quite batch analyze, but will grow with content played
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:26 am
TVD UK
OK Thanks, so basically preload them
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:31 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
Tested with Beatport Link here (with cache).
Works, but its a bit of a delay between each song (about a min), and it runs as a background process so it will take a bit of time..
This might be something Beatport has asked for.. not sure.
The providers all have their limitations and requirements
Works, but its a bit of a delay between each song (about a min), and it runs as a background process so it will take a bit of time..
This might be something Beatport has asked for.. not sure.
The providers all have their limitations and requirements
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 12:43 am
TVD UK
Yeah I see it now, a good minute between scans, so may need an overnight run to scan a set. So clearly online music CAN be scanned just takes much longer to do.
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 6:31 am
ADJ Scotland
Just tried it. Now much slower at scanning - and keys detected are still wrong.
Not practical - I can scan 100 tracks in Rekordbox (straight from cloud, not cached) in 2-3 minutes, and the key detection is spot on.
Not practical - I can scan 100 tracks in Rekordbox (straight from cloud, not cached) in 2-3 minutes, and the key detection is spot on.
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 7:29 am
groovindj
TVD UK wrote :
So clearly online music CAN be scanned
You're not scanning "online music". It's being downloaded first (so it's local, not online) and then it's being scanned.
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 8:40 am
TVD UK
If you say so
"You have Beatport with cache (aka, download) ?
The LINK comes in 3 variants.. Link (no cache), Link Pro (50 songs), Link Pro+ (100 songs)."
I am using Link (no cache) according to above post
So either I am caching it or I am not.
"You have Beatport with cache (aka, download) ?
The LINK comes in 3 variants.. Link (no cache), Link Pro (50 songs), Link Pro+ (100 songs)."
I am using Link (no cache) according to above post
So either I am caching it or I am not.
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 10:41 am
groovindj
OK, so the tracks need to be streamed first (basically 'downloaded', just not cached). As we keep telling you, they can't be analysed until they've got to your computer.
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 11:10 am
ADJ Scotland
I use Pro (50 songs), never once have I downloaded a track locally. When I analyse the tracks in Rekordbox - nomatter how may times I load it, every single time it comes from the cloud (verified via network activity), so it is not being cached - but it does retain the track information (waveform, BPM, key) in the database locally. Serato behaviour is identical. Even with the "UseKeyFromTag" value set to Yes - it does not use the key stored by Beatport at all (latest Mac build).
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 11:10 am
groovindj
ADJ Scotland wrote :
every single time it comes from the cloud
Then it is to all intents and purposes downloading - being transferred from their computer to yours. You cannot analyse something if it's not on your computer.
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 11:25 am
ADJ Scotland
So how does Rekordbox and Serato do it? I don't need to play the tracks on either of those in order to get a correct key detection, like with VDJ?
Please understand, I'm not saying this to be awkward or combative - I genuinely want to understand why VDJ can't seem to do this. Playing 100-150 tracks in a playlist before I can see the keys isn't realistic - and I mix harmonically, so it's a pretty, ahem, "key" feature for me.
Please understand, I'm not saying this to be awkward or combative - I genuinely want to understand why VDJ can't seem to do this. Playing 100-150 tracks in a playlist before I can see the keys isn't realistic - and I mix harmonically, so it's a pretty, ahem, "key" feature for me.
Posted Wed 28 Oct 20 @ 11:42 am
