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Topic: DDJ-SX2 FX Mapping problems
Hi,
I'll start by saying that this issue is the only thing that's keeping me away from trying out VDJ in my shows.
Your help is very much appreciated.
I'll try to be as clear as possible:

I'm trying to make VDJ's multi fx mode work 100% the same as it works in Serato.
In Serato - if you select working with multi fx (which i do), the routing is something like this:

(LEFT DECK):
FX 1 on - effect 1 active
FX 1 knob - effect 1 control
FX 2 on - effect 2 active
FX 2 knob - effect 2 control
FX 3 on - effect 3 active
FX 3 knob - effect 3 control
FX TAP - TAP
FX beats knob - beats

(Right DECK):
FX 4 on - effect 1 active
FX 4 knob - effect 1 control
FX 5 on - effect 2 active
FX 5 knob - effect 2 control
FX 6 on - effect 3 active
FX 6 knob - effect 3 control
FX TAP - TAP
FX beats knob - beats

(By FX 4+5+6 on the right deck it means 1+2+3 but from the right deck...i hope you understand)

Each channel on the DDJ-SX2 has a 1,2 button (FX assign). Let's say i'm playing a track on Deck 2. if i press FX assign 1 it will send whatever effect is turned on in the LEFT FX DECK. meaning i can press FX assign 1, and only if i turn on one or more effects, it will be sent to that channel. If an effect is active but FX assign isn't, the effect will not be active on that deck/channel. Same goes for FX assign 2. only the FX from the RIGHT FX DECK will be send to a deck/channel i assign it to.
The beautiful thing about this is the idea that i don't need an additional FX deck for decks 3 and 4. I route my Sampler to Deck 4. if i click on Deck 4's FX assign it will work the same as it does on decks 1,2,3.
Furthermore - FX assign "kills" the effect if you turn it off, meaning it cuts off any post-fader trail too.
On the other hand, if you keep the FX assign button on and turn off the actual effect, the post-fader trail will keep going (I mentioned this because it's a very good and useful feature)
That's it.
is this programmable?
I have tried DDJ-SX2 mapping from older builds (which for some reason have a completely different mapping the in the FX section) and more options that were given to be by the very nice people in the facebook support forum but i couldn't get it to work.
I was also suggested "mirroring" the FX decks so that i will not have to choose what to assign but that doesn't help me with Decks 3+4.

Thanks in advance


 

Posted Sun 27 Oct 19 @ 4:32 am
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
The script/remapping is possible and reasonably straight forward, the trickier part is what you see on the skin, again not impossible just a bit of skinning work.
You'd link "bank b/right side" fx to fx slots 4,5,6 , then you'd have a rsi script to monitor what fx is selected on fx slots and if changed make the changes to other decks.
 

Posted Sun 27 Oct 19 @ 8:09 am
I'm not sure I follow your requirements, but the effects layout/routing is different in Serato software than it is in VDJ. That's a fixed thing which can't be changed.

In Serato DJ the fx banks are standalone. That's why on controllers designed for Serato DJ there are two FX assign buttons, allowing you to send any deck to either FX bank, or to both banks. You can't do that in VDJ.

In VDJ the effects have a fixed assignment to each deck, and to the master output. This is why the assign buttons on the SX2 act as clone buttons in VDJ.
 

Posted Sun 27 Oct 19 @ 9:08 am
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
@groovin, vdj could absolutely work as serato does with fx.If op uses the performance skin a variation of the fx rack would be the least work
 

Posted Sun 27 Oct 19 @ 9:40 am
groovindj wrote :
I'm not sure I follow your requirements, but the effects layout/routing is different in Serato software than it is in VDJ. That's a fixed thing which can't be changed.

In Serato DJ the fx banks are standalone. That's why on controllers designed for Serato DJ there are two FX assign buttons, allowing you to send any deck to either FX bank, or to both banks. You can't do that in VDJ.

In VDJ the effects have a fixed assignment to each deck, and to the master output. This is why the assign buttons on the SX2 act as clone buttons in VDJ.


Just out of curiosity, why not make the FX standalone?
Serato Dj has its limits but it struck gold with the FX (combined with the DDJ-SX/SZ2). This is why i didn't switch to SX3 (different fx layout)
Hopefully there is a way around this.
 

Posted Sun 27 Oct 19 @ 9:46 am
I agree it would be best if there was an option in VDJ to have the FX assignment work the "Serato way" - and I have posted about that in the past here. It would make more sense then, allowing the functions on a "Serato controller" to do what the user expects.

A lot of things that get asked for never materialise.

Locodog, how would one go about "untying" VDJ FX from each deck, so you could send (e.g.) the left deck to the right bank, or to both banks?
 

Posted Sun 27 Oct 19 @ 10:06 am
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
you wouldn't untie [that can't be done] you'd use 6 fx slots on every deck.
Bank a covers fx slots 1,2,3, bank b covers slots 4,5,6
 

Posted Sun 27 Oct 19 @ 10:30 am
skip1eLE userMember since 2014
strange I had understood from other posts from 2015 that it was possible. with complete scripts included.
 

Posted Sat 09 Oct 21 @ 5:57 pm
when i see this i so get it but... I think if your needing more slots or want a master control to pads buy a cheap controller. I can buy a cheap controller for 25$ to $80 Canadian and add effect as much as i want. right now im running over 300 buttons for effects plus pages linked to effects and poi linked to songs with effect pages . I also have 6 other owned dj softwares plus 4 more different controllers on top of my rig.
 

Posted 5 days ago @ 3:50 pm
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
@Stretchincanada
it's not slots at issue, it's the limited workflow that offers a simplicity that some like. [personally not a fan]

@skip1e
It is possible it has been for years, I personally don't like the workflow so haven't bothered replicating it, a bit of mapping, a skin tweak maybe add skin rack nothing too complicated about it.
 

Posted 5 days ago @ 4:36 pm
skip1eLE userMember since 2014
locodog wrote :
@Stretchincanada
it's not slots at issue, it's the limited workflow that offers a simplicity that some like. [personally not a fan]

@skip1e
It is possible it has been for years, I personally don't like the workflow so haven't bothered replicating it, a bit of mapping, a skin tweak maybe add skin rack nothing too complicated about it.


But you have now also received the 6FX function in the new VDJ version. can't be used for that either. And with that function you can create 6 effects per deck via the shift key. But then you have to press extra buttons. Personally, that's not my thing, I prefer to have everything directly available. Instead of browsing tabs. I also have an extra akai LPD8 with 8 pads and 8 potentiometers. saves extra thinking.
 

Posted yesterday @ 4:32 am
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
skip1e wrote :
then you have to press extra buttons. ... browsing tabs...


not the case, when I say it's possible I mean including the workflow.

 

Posted yesterday @ 8:06 am