im looking for opinions on renewing my collection and rebuilding it with lossless flac, however i currently have around (at last count) 287,000 tracks.
would there be any major benefit from renewing the entire collection when its mainly for home use anyway?
would there be any major benefit from renewing the entire collection when its mainly for home use anyway?
Posted Wed 12 Apr 17 @ 9:10 am
Depends on your current library.
If they come from quality sources and have been encoded properly at 192kbps mp3 or better then there is likely no need as you will not be able to tell the difference.
If they come from quality sources and have been encoded properly at 192kbps mp3 or better then there is likely no need as you will not be able to tell the difference.
Posted Wed 12 Apr 17 @ 9:22 am
287000 - that would take two years without sleeping to listen to, so way more than anyone needs.
I am assuming you haven't spent quarter of a million pounds on those tracks so they have come from illegal sources? so probably quite poor quality. I assume you don't have that kind of money to replace them all with FLAC either.
Would there be a benefit? well you would have a legal collection of higher quality tracks. So depends if that is important to you, which I would assume it isn't if you have amassed that kind of library.
I am assuming you haven't spent quarter of a million pounds on those tracks so they have come from illegal sources? so probably quite poor quality. I assume you don't have that kind of money to replace them all with FLAC either.
Would there be a benefit? well you would have a legal collection of higher quality tracks. So depends if that is important to you, which I would assume it isn't if you have amassed that kind of library.
Posted Wed 12 Apr 17 @ 11:01 am
Adion wrote :
Depends on your current library.
If they come from quality sources and have been encoded properly at 192kbps mp3 or better then there is likely no need as you will not be able to tell the difference.
If they come from quality sources and have been encoded properly at 192kbps mp3 or better then there is likely no need as you will not be able to tell the difference.
theyre all 192 or above so probably not a great deal of use then if no one would be able to tell the difference.
Posted Thu 13 Apr 17 @ 10:37 am
Andy7689 wrote :
287000 - that would take two years without sleeping to listen to, so way more than anyone needs.
I am assuming you haven't spent quarter of a million pounds on those tracks so they have come from illegal sources? so probably quite poor quality. I assume you don't have that kind of money to replace them all with FLAC either.
Would there be a benefit? well you would have a legal collection of higher quality tracks. So depends if that is important to you, which I would assume it isn't if you have amassed that kind of library.
I am assuming you haven't spent quarter of a million pounds on those tracks so they have come from illegal sources? so probably quite poor quality. I assume you don't have that kind of money to replace them all with FLAC either.
Would there be a benefit? well you would have a legal collection of higher quality tracks. So depends if that is important to you, which I would assume it isn't if you have amassed that kind of library.
not all of them were purchased as mp3, a considerable amount were ripped from my cd / vinyl collection a number of years ago, a collection which i built over a 20 year period and would regularly buy cds / vinyl in bulk from carboot sales etc. just because i have a large number of tracks does not mean that they are illegal. a lot are actually completely useless to me as they never get played or listened to but i really can not be bothered to sort through them.
Posted Thu 13 Apr 17 @ 10:44 am
Andy3689, please don't assume because you are totally wrong. I have a much bigger collection that is all legal. I have lost a collection of vinyl and cd that was larger than that, (storage unit). I may have 100 foreign tracks that I got from YouTube, but I pay for YouTube Red, and a service that allows me to download their videos.
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 1:45 am
When people give very little information, you have to assume certain things. I personally couldn't care less if his collection is legal or not. The assumption was that they are probably quite poor quality in comparison to Flac if he has that many. I was merely explaining why i was assuming that.
He then explained that he had ripped most of them from CD, so all is good. He can just rip them all again then in Flac and it wont cost a penny, though it will take a few years, and would need an 8TB hard drive though.
He then explained that he had ripped most of them from CD, so all is good. He can just rip them all again then in Flac and it wont cost a penny, though it will take a few years, and would need an 8TB hard drive though.
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 11:29 am
for home use no need a man listens to his own playlist
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 1:08 pm
I've been working on a overhaul of my music for the pass year now. One of the things I did was move all music to NAS of 16TB. It's a little in depth but I'll pick a genre and a year and run the tracks through a few process. First I use mp3tag to write my tracks to what I want to see when It's in VDJ8.
Than ran the track through Platinum Note and Mixed in key.
Once the track is completed in those apps, I put the track in my music folder that is linked to VDJ8 and analyze the track.
I also have my VDJ8 music folder sync to my NAS. So all my updated are also backup.
Than ran the track through Platinum Note and Mixed in key.
Once the track is completed in those apps, I put the track in my music folder that is linked to VDJ8 and analyze the track.
I also have my VDJ8 music folder sync to my NAS. So all my updated are also backup.
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 2:12 pm
Andy7689 wrote :
When people give very little information, you have to assume certain things. I personally couldn't care less if his collection is legal or not. The assumption was that they are probably quite poor quality in comparison to Flac if he has that many. I was merely explaining why i was assuming that.
He then explained that he had ripped most of them from CD, so all is good. He can just rip them all again then in Flac and it wont cost a penny, though it will take a few years, and would need an 8TB hard drive though.
He then explained that he had ripped most of them from CD, so all is good. He can just rip them all again then in Flac and it wont cost a penny, though it will take a few years, and would need an 8TB hard drive though.
considering ive been doing this for quite some years and also been a quite well respected member of the forum (by both members and staff) for almost a decade im not new to the fact that flac is top quality. most of my tracks are 320k, those i use regularly anyway, the rest are no less than 192. my question was in relation to, is it worth upgrading my entire collection to flac when its mostly for personal use now as ive not gigged for several years.
if it would indeed take me 8tb of space to upgrade them all then i think ill just leave things as they are and maybe just get new tracks in the .flac format and start a new drive for just those.
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 4:11 pm
knightrin wrote :
I've been working on a overhaul of my music for the pass year now. One of the things I did was move all music to NAS of 16TB. It's a little in depth but I'll pick a genre and a year and run the tracks through a few process. First I use mp3tag to write my tracks to what I want to see when It's in VDJ8.
Than ran the track through Platinum Note and Mixed in key.
Once the track is completed in those apps, I put the track in my music folder that is linked to VDJ8 and analyze the track.
I also have my VDJ8 music folder sync to my NAS. So all my updated are also backup.
Than ran the track through Platinum Note and Mixed in key.
Once the track is completed in those apps, I put the track in my music folder that is linked to VDJ8 and analyze the track.
I also have my VDJ8 music folder sync to my NAS. So all my updated are also backup.
i really like what youve done there. i began a similar journey about 4 years ago but then i got a bit mored of the tediousness of having to do so. i might start again when i get a bit of free time as i have a half organised collection lol.
mixed in key is awesome. that little key wheel used to be my desktop picture when i was learning to undermix and match elements. undermixing actually became one of my most used techniques for that seamless blend of tracks, however once mastered you have to move on and use other techniques too or it becomes a bit boring and repetitive. so i started cutting things up, and using sampling, looping, fx and cues a lot more.
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 4:17 pm
Blulite wrote :
i really like what youve done there. i began a similar journey about 4 years ago but then i got a bit mored of the tediousness of having to do so. i might start again when i get a bit of free time as i have a half organised collection lol.
i really like what youve done there. i began a similar journey about 4 years ago but then i got a bit mored of the tediousness of having to do so. i might start again when i get a bit of free time as i have a half organised collection lol.
Yep it's very tediousness but I'm also very anal on how I want my library to look. I think you need to focus on what best for you and know that organising your collection is a life time project/hobby.
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 4:28 pm
knightrin wrote :
Yep it's very tediousness but I'm also very anal on how I want my library to look. I think you need to focus on what best for you and know that organising your collection is a life time project/hobby.
Blulite wrote :
i really like what youve done there. i began a similar journey about 4 years ago but then i got a bit mored of the tediousness of having to do so. i might start again when i get a bit of free time as i have a half organised collection lol.
i really like what youve done there. i began a similar journey about 4 years ago but then i got a bit mored of the tediousness of having to do so. i might start again when i get a bit of free time as i have a half organised collection lol.
Yep it's very tediousness but I'm also very anal on how I want my library to look. I think you need to focus on what best for you and know that organising your collection is a life time project/hobby.
what pushed me away from it was i couldnt quite figure out which categories i wanted to group the music into... years/genres etc. eg where on earth do you put bob dylan? folk? 60s? 70s? rock? blues? all of them? my brain works funny and i think i spent more time trying to decide how to organise it than i did actually organising it lol
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 4:35 pm
Blulite wrote :
where on earth do you put bob dylan?
I'd file him under n for 'nasal'.
:-)
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 5:22 pm
groovindj wrote :
I'd file him under n for 'nasal'.
:-)
Blulite wrote :
where on earth do you put bob dylan?
I'd file him under n for 'nasal'.
:-)
lmao, thats actually a really good idea.
Posted Fri 14 Apr 17 @ 6:08 pm
One more genre on the list ;o)))
Posted Sat 15 Apr 17 @ 2:21 pm
Blulite wrote :
[quote=knightrin][quote=Blulite]
what pushed me away from it was i couldnt quite figure out which categories i wanted to group the music into... years/genres etc. eg where on earth do you put bob dylan? folk? 60s? 70s? rock? blues? all of them? my brain works funny and i think i spent more time trying to decide how to organise it than i did actually organising it lol
what pushed me away from it was i couldnt quite figure out which categories i wanted to group the music into... years/genres etc. eg where on earth do you put bob dylan? folk? 60s? 70s? rock? blues? all of them? my brain works funny and i think i spent more time trying to decide how to organise it than i did actually organising it lol
There are genre that can be in more than one genre... What I do I put what I think is best and in the comment section, I hashtag the other genre... So if I do a filter for genre I so code it to look at the comment section also.
Posted Sat 15 Apr 17 @ 2:39 pm