DJ Cyder
Quote :
So is this for real? .... V8 12 more months away!
So is this for real? .... V8 12 more months away!
Q2 2013 means between April-June of 2013.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 7:02 am
i guess his calendar " has no 7's" ......
looks like 6 to 9 months .....?
i noticed Caro's statement that even advanced users are not 100% expert on VDJ7 .....
EXCELLENT POINT
if you have so mastered 7 that you must have 8 now, i wish you would teach the rest of us ........??
that tends to buttress what Cstoll has said about the frequency of the updates is actually better
than what the competition provides .....?
as for almost losing your job......
they released it on a tuesday and releases fall on "slow" nights so that users can try it out on off nights
i installed it wed, tried it out at home in various configs (with and w/o RMX, different skins, etc)
i used it sat night at a birthday party it was perfect......
did i install it at the last second and then go to a gig without checking it for issues ??
NO because i'm not stupid enough to do that, and i'm not unconcerned for the customers enough to
do something that ignorant....take a little responsibility.......
looks like 6 to 9 months .....?
i noticed Caro's statement that even advanced users are not 100% expert on VDJ7 .....
EXCELLENT POINT
if you have so mastered 7 that you must have 8 now, i wish you would teach the rest of us ........??
that tends to buttress what Cstoll has said about the frequency of the updates is actually better
than what the competition provides .....?
as for almost losing your job......
they released it on a tuesday and releases fall on "slow" nights so that users can try it out on off nights
i installed it wed, tried it out at home in various configs (with and w/o RMX, different skins, etc)
i used it sat night at a birthday party it was perfect......
did i install it at the last second and then go to a gig without checking it for issues ??
NO because i'm not stupid enough to do that, and i'm not unconcerned for the customers enough to
do something that ignorant....take a little responsibility.......
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 9:33 am
maki2001
Support staff wrote :
Sorry, VirtualDJ LE is free limited software and is not eligible for updates (Except where this has been specifically arranged by the manufacturer.)
However, you can upgrade to the full VirtualDJ Pro either now or in the future and get the latest version as well as any future updates: http://www.virtualdj.com/buy/index.html
However, you can upgrade to the full VirtualDJ Pro either now or in the future and get the latest version as well as any future updates: http://www.virtualdj.com/buy/index.html
well to be honest it seems to me that the LE version of virtual dj is just as much good as the demo. so no i wont be upgrading to the pro version becouse since LE version is all ready locked up to the fullest i think a upgrade to the loced virtual dj 8 would be enough. but thanks
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 10:21 am
cstoll
maki2001 wrote :
well to be honest it seems to me that the LE version of virtual dj is just as much good as the demo. so no i wont be upgrading to the pro version becouse since LE version is all ready locked up to the fullest i think a upgrade to the loced virtual dj 8 would be enough. but thanks
Support staff wrote :
Sorry, VirtualDJ LE is free limited software and is not eligible for updates (Except where this has been specifically arranged by the manufacturer.)
However, you can upgrade to the full VirtualDJ Pro either now or in the future and get the latest version as well as any future updates: http://www.virtualdj.com/buy/index.html
However, you can upgrade to the full VirtualDJ Pro either now or in the future and get the latest version as well as any future updates: http://www.virtualdj.com/buy/index.html
well to be honest it seems to me that the LE version of virtual dj is just as much good as the demo. so no i wont be upgrading to the pro version becouse since LE version is all ready locked up to the fullest i think a upgrade to the loced virtual dj 8 would be enough. but thanks
You missed the point of the message from the Support Staff.
Limited Edition (LE) versions are not eligible for updates to major version updates unless that agreement was made with the manufacture.
Limited Edition (LE) versions also are not typically eligible for minor version updates unless that agreement was made with the manufacture OR we discovered a bug that adversely impacts the performance/capability of the hardware that shipped with an Limited Edition version.
So, unless you upgrade to the PRO Full version; a user of the LE version should not have an expectation that you will be receiving an update.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 10:57 am
prasanf
Sorry to hear you almost lost your job - that's terrible. So VDJ, from what I can see in all the threads I have read, the loop bug appeared after version 7.02 - can you please try to find out what happened in the next update that is causing this. I have created a ticket on this before but the VDJ team said that they could not reproduce the problem. Basically what happens is, when you are in a loop (usually after running the program through some intensive use) the sound suddenly disappears for whatever the duration of the loop is. So if it is a 4 beat loop, you get 4 beats of silence and 4 beats of music. Then again 4 beats of silence and 4 beats of music. I have also noticed that the on- screen VU meter for the buggy deck goes right to the top and stays there, until the next iteration of the loop (where the music reappears).
Now when I say intensive use I will describe a typical night at my club -
The music is all music videos plus videos with links to other music videos. I mix almost every song by starting it in a loop (sometimes I use loop *1/2 to have a long drum roll at the start of a song).
1. Leave it on automix for about 3 hours running a playlist.
2. Play some old poor quality videos that are linked to high quality music files, as well as some older videos (like 380p resolution and using autogain which is more than what you can manually gain). I use video and audio effects with every song.
3. Increase the tempo of the videos by about 20 percent as I change up to a fast song. Again I will be using many effects. This non automix session could go on for about 2 hours.
4. Close the laptop lid (but without switching the laptop off - so the software stays on). This is while the other house DJ plays a set. Maybe 1 hour.
5. Reopen the laptop lid and start playing more videos. Again - I might increase or reduce the tempo in a video drastically and may even do some scratching. This could be for another 1 hour or so.
At some point during a night like this, the loop bug does appear. Usually just once. But it is still annoying!
If you guys want to test it - go through these steps - make sure you are actually djing and using all the effects and occasionally scratching, even using 4 decks. Make sure you use music videos. Make sure every mix starts the incoming track on a loop. Also make sure you use a proper playlist full of different videos. Do not use the same video over and over again, because it may be that some videos are harder to process than others.
I understand if it is too much work to go through all this, but in case you are really interested in addressing this - I have given my suggestion. Sorry for such a long post on the 7.1 thread. Please feel free to move it to another thread you feel is appropriate.
Cheers and thanks for trying to help!
Now when I say intensive use I will describe a typical night at my club -
The music is all music videos plus videos with links to other music videos. I mix almost every song by starting it in a loop (sometimes I use loop *1/2 to have a long drum roll at the start of a song).
1. Leave it on automix for about 3 hours running a playlist.
2. Play some old poor quality videos that are linked to high quality music files, as well as some older videos (like 380p resolution and using autogain which is more than what you can manually gain). I use video and audio effects with every song.
3. Increase the tempo of the videos by about 20 percent as I change up to a fast song. Again I will be using many effects. This non automix session could go on for about 2 hours.
4. Close the laptop lid (but without switching the laptop off - so the software stays on). This is while the other house DJ plays a set. Maybe 1 hour.
5. Reopen the laptop lid and start playing more videos. Again - I might increase or reduce the tempo in a video drastically and may even do some scratching. This could be for another 1 hour or so.
At some point during a night like this, the loop bug does appear. Usually just once. But it is still annoying!
If you guys want to test it - go through these steps - make sure you are actually djing and using all the effects and occasionally scratching, even using 4 decks. Make sure you use music videos. Make sure every mix starts the incoming track on a loop. Also make sure you use a proper playlist full of different videos. Do not use the same video over and over again, because it may be that some videos are harder to process than others.
I understand if it is too much work to go through all this, but in case you are really interested in addressing this - I have given my suggestion. Sorry for such a long post on the 7.1 thread. Please feel free to move it to another thread you feel is appropriate.
Cheers and thanks for trying to help!
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 11:47 am
stretch107
prasanf wrote :
Sorry to hear you almost lost your job - that's terrible. So VDJ, from what I can see in all the threads I have read, the loop bug appeared after version 7.02 - can you please try to find out what happened in the next update that is causing this. I have created a ticket on this before but the VDJ team said that they could not reproduce the problem. Basically what happens is, when you are in a loop (usually after running the program through some intensive use) the sound suddenly disappears for whatever the duration of the loop is. So if it is a 4 beat loop, you get 4 beats of silence and 4 beats of music. Then again 4 beats of silence and 4 beats of music. I have also noticed that the on- screen VU meter for the buggy deck goes right to the top and stays there, until the next iteration of the loop (where the music reappears
I have also commented on this before but i just hope the VDJ team knows this is a real issue, for myself the loop bug is random and the more you use loop the better your chance of running into it.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 1:57 pm
maki2001
cstoll wrote :
You missed the point of the message from the Support Staff.
Limited Edition (LE) versions are not eligible for updates to major version updates unless that agreement was made with the manufacture.
Limited Edition (LE) versions also are not typically eligible for minor version updates unless that agreement was made with the manufacture OR we discovered a bug that adversely impacts the performance/capability of the hardware that shipped with an Limited Edition version.
So, unless you upgrade to the PRO Full version; a user of the LE version should not have an expectation that you will be receiving an update.
maki2001 wrote :
well to be honest it seems to me that the LE version of virtual dj is just as much good as the demo. so no i wont be upgrading to the pro version becouse since LE version is all ready locked up to the fullest i think a upgrade to the loced virtual dj 8 would be enough. but thanks
Support staff wrote :
Sorry, VirtualDJ LE is free limited software and is not eligible for updates (Except where this has been specifically arranged by the manufacturer.)
However, you can upgrade to the full VirtualDJ Pro either now or in the future and get the latest version as well as any future updates: http://www.virtualdj.com/buy/index.html
However, you can upgrade to the full VirtualDJ Pro either now or in the future and get the latest version as well as any future updates: http://www.virtualdj.com/buy/index.html
well to be honest it seems to me that the LE version of virtual dj is just as much good as the demo. so no i wont be upgrading to the pro version becouse since LE version is all ready locked up to the fullest i think a upgrade to the loced virtual dj 8 would be enough. but thanks
You missed the point of the message from the Support Staff.
Limited Edition (LE) versions are not eligible for updates to major version updates unless that agreement was made with the manufacture.
Limited Edition (LE) versions also are not typically eligible for minor version updates unless that agreement was made with the manufacture OR we discovered a bug that adversely impacts the performance/capability of the hardware that shipped with an Limited Edition version.
So, unless you upgrade to the PRO Full version; a user of the LE version should not have an expectation that you will be receiving an update.
khm khm.. :)
"Limited Edition (LE) versions also are not typically eligible for minor version updates unless that agreement was made with the manufacture OR we discovered a bug that adversely impacts the performance/capability of the hardware that shipped with an Limited Edition version."
but if i upgrade to the PRO version that is just ok then. i could upgrade to it and what if my controller dosent work ? its not a upgrade that the MANUFACTURER approved right ? then what ?...
look i know this is all buisness im just saying that its not really fair for the users that bought controllers that at least don't get the virtual dj 8 upgrade to that extent that it is a vdj 8 version but a vdj LE version that it is locked the same way as the vdj lLE 7 version.. not asking for a full upgrade pro..just a VDJ 8 LE that's it :)
cheers friend :)
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 2:56 pm
kradcliffe
maki2001 wrote :
but if i upgrade to the PRO version that is just ok then. i could upgrade to it and what if my controller dosent work ? its not a upgrade that the MANUFACTURER approved right ? then what ?...
If LE works with your controller then Pro will as well.
maki2001 wrote :
look i know this is all buisness im just saying that its not really fair for the users that bought controllers that at least don't get the virtual dj 8 upgrade
The LE version is a "gift" from the manufacturer so you can use your controller out of the box. There is no onus on them to pay Atomix for an upgraded LE version which is a new build.
Keith
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 3:06 pm
cstoll
@maki2001 - Do you hear or at least read what you are writing?
And let me be straight forward on your exact setup --
1. You have an LE version that was provided with your Numark N4.
2. The Numark N4 will not be getting an update to VirtualDJ v8 LE.
Now, anyone that currently has the VirtualDJ PRO Full (v7) - that already works with the Numark N4 - will be provided an update to VirtualDJ PRO Full (v8). Which will continue to work with the Numark N4.
And to address your concern about your controller not working --- why would we stop supporting a controller that we build support for? And the manufacture does not have to approve our support for their hardware in our PRO version. Their approval only comes during the initial development of the LE version for their product.
And I haven't said this in a long time but .... You purchased a hardware product not a software product. You were provided that software by the manufacture not by VirtualDJ. The fact that you chose to stay with it VirtualDJ is great. But like I said in my prior post - "there should not be an expectation that a LE user will be receiving an update" - minor or major.
And let me be straight forward on your exact setup --
1. You have an LE version that was provided with your Numark N4.
2. The Numark N4 will not be getting an update to VirtualDJ v8 LE.
Now, anyone that currently has the VirtualDJ PRO Full (v7) - that already works with the Numark N4 - will be provided an update to VirtualDJ PRO Full (v8). Which will continue to work with the Numark N4.
And to address your concern about your controller not working --- why would we stop supporting a controller that we build support for? And the manufacture does not have to approve our support for their hardware in our PRO version. Their approval only comes during the initial development of the LE version for their product.
And I haven't said this in a long time but .... You purchased a hardware product not a software product. You were provided that software by the manufacture not by VirtualDJ. The fact that you chose to stay with it VirtualDJ is great. But like I said in my prior post - "there should not be an expectation that a LE user will be receiving an update" - minor or major.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 3:08 pm
DJ Koz
The LE version that you get is made to work with the controller you purchased out of the box. It is a limited version.
Now if you are a professional and you make a living DJing, then it makes perfect sense to upgrade to the full version for a discount. I did it and it is definitely worth the upgrade
Now if you are a professional and you make a living DJing, then it makes perfect sense to upgrade to the full version for a discount. I did it and it is definitely worth the upgrade
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 3:22 pm
DJ Koz
What happened to my post?
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 3:39 pm
SuperAceMan
Your post was moderated. Please see the notes in bold at the bottom of it.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 3:54 pm
DJ Koz
I knew that they are not the same price. I was just trying to make a point. No problem.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 3:58 pm
kaoz99
Just 1 question... if they are saying that it is multi platform now, why isn't there a linux version for us linux users ?
The only reason i am running a Windows machine is because i have no choice ?
Can someone shed some light on this ?
Kaoz
The only reason i am running a Windows machine is because i have no choice ?
Can someone shed some light on this ?
Kaoz
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 7:28 pm
metmort
Honestly. why even bother to announce Version 8, If it is so far away from release. I have been Djing over 28 years now, using VDJ since it's begging.
You guys always get it right. But this time... It just makes me wonder??? Is it all about the hype? I have yet to see read or hear anyone from VDJ say, oops we made a mistake. Pro DJs want there software ,equipment to work right from the get go. We don't want to hear marketing BS,.
If your policy is we will release it when it ready, then don't promote it like it's coming out next week or two. Be honest.Give us a direct answer as to when it might be released, not leaked thru some 3rd party about next quarter or next. It's embarrassing...
You guys always get it right. But this time... It just makes me wonder??? Is it all about the hype? I have yet to see read or hear anyone from VDJ say, oops we made a mistake. Pro DJs want there software ,equipment to work right from the get go. We don't want to hear marketing BS,.
If your policy is we will release it when it ready, then don't promote it like it's coming out next week or two. Be honest.Give us a direct answer as to when it might be released, not leaked thru some 3rd party about next quarter or next. It's embarrassing...
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 7:40 pm
samirdj21
metmort wrote :
Honestly. why even bother to announce Version 8, If it is so far away from release. I have been Djing over 28 years now, using VDJ since it's begging.
You guys always get it right. But this time... It just makes me wonder??? Is it all about the hype? I have yet to see read or hear anyone from VDJ say, oops we made a mistake. Pro DJs want there software ,equipment to work right from the get go. We don't want to hear marketing BS,.
If your policy is we will release it when it ready, then don't promote it like it's coming out next week or two. Be honest.Give us a direct answer as to when it might be released, not leaked thru some 3rd party about next quarter or next. It's embarrassing...
You guys always get it right. But this time... It just makes me wonder??? Is it all about the hype? I have yet to see read or hear anyone from VDJ say, oops we made a mistake. Pro DJs want there software ,equipment to work right from the get go. We don't want to hear marketing BS,.
If your policy is we will release it when it ready, then don't promote it like it's coming out next week or two. Be honest.Give us a direct answer as to when it might be released, not leaked thru some 3rd party about next quarter or next. It's embarrassing...
+1
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 11:10 pm
espepe
I agree.
Posted Tue 09 Oct 12 @ 11:48 pm
mariosoriaec
I been using VDJ for many many years, and never had any problem with the updates, so as usual I trusted in Vdj. The song looped for no reason several times, the video stop running, and when i tried to go to config to reboot the video card it crashed the first time. if you are djing for 400 people and they are dancing and a bit drunk and suddenly the music stops, they want to kill you, I also notice a distorted sound. I know that i should tested before, but I trusted vdj for almost 5 years.
Posted Wed 10 Oct 12 @ 1:31 am
GadgetMan
metmort wrote :
Honestly. why even bother to announce Version 8, If it is so far away from release. I have been Djing over 28 years now, using VDJ since it's begging.
You guys always get it right. But this time... It just makes me wonder??? Is it all about the hype? I have yet to see read or hear anyone from VDJ say, oops we made a mistake. Pro DJs want there software ,equipment to work right from the get go. We don't want to hear marketing BS,.
If your policy is we will release it when it ready, then don't promote it like it's coming out next week or two. Be honest.Give us a direct answer as to when it might be released, not leaked thru some 3rd party about next quarter or next. It's embarrassing...
You guys always get it right. But this time... It just makes me wonder??? Is it all about the hype? I have yet to see read or hear anyone from VDJ say, oops we made a mistake. Pro DJs want there software ,equipment to work right from the get go. We don't want to hear marketing BS,.
If your policy is we will release it when it ready, then don't promote it like it's coming out next week or two. Be honest.Give us a direct answer as to when it might be released, not leaked thru some 3rd party about next quarter or next. It's embarrassing...
In my personal opinion, the announcement was on the back of the bigger announcement on the merger with adionSoft. Rather than have users from both companies speculate as to what the merger was about, the combined companies told us. They also told us it was a complete re-write.
While this might be hard for non-techies to comprehend (no disrespect intended to hard working DJ's around the world), a complete re-write of a rock solid application used by 000's is not a simple task. Requiring lots of man hours of development and testing - It's got to be at least a stable as 7 right???
Let's put it another way. If they hadn't of announced v8 and simply given us v7.1 would we be complaining in the same way?
Those that have genuine concerns such as the reported loop bug etc. might have a legitimate claim, but for all those complaining about the wait - I'm sure you'd be complaining more (or in threat of job security) if Atomix didn't release a stable product.
Cheers,
Roy
Posted Wed 10 Oct 12 @ 5:53 am
The Magic.DJ
IMO:
VDJ should just forget about the updates to v7.xx and have those man power to work with V8.
Everyone has a version that they trust (some v6.0, v5, v7.05, v7.0 etc...). Keep using this sweet spot version for you and just stop v7.xxx updates and get all those programmers wortking on v8 instead.
VDJ should just forget about the updates to v7.xx and have those man power to work with V8.
Everyone has a version that they trust (some v6.0, v5, v7.05, v7.0 etc...). Keep using this sweet spot version for you and just stop v7.xxx updates and get all those programmers wortking on v8 instead.
Posted Wed 10 Oct 12 @ 6:32 am
