Sintar
Hi all, as the subject title says, I find the NS6 to be insanely loud. On my old pioneer mixers (DJM500 & 600) there was an override know on the back allowing for much better control, I can't find any equivalent on the NS6 unfortunately, it's the only thing I don't like about it, well, that and the related problem of accidentally bumping the master volume knob, which due to how loud the NS6 is poses a real problem. I had a guy try to tweak the volume up and down (he was just fooling around, it wasn't at a proper event) and it nearly blew my speakers.
I believe I can turn the overall volume down in Virtual DJ to work around this, but then if I switch programs or just go to generally play something on the laptop it will get seriously blasted if my volume knob on the NS6 is high due to VDJ being turned down. (as a side note I should prob specify that I want it quieter as the volume LEDs don't even show usually as the master volume is so low).
So now the question, does anyone who has a NS6 run into a similar problem and found a better fix? Is there for instance any way to hack into the NS6 and turn the darn thing down a bit or something. I know this isn't a Nunark board, but thought someone might have some insight.
Cheers!
I believe I can turn the overall volume down in Virtual DJ to work around this, but then if I switch programs or just go to generally play something on the laptop it will get seriously blasted if my volume knob on the NS6 is high due to VDJ being turned down. (as a side note I should prob specify that I want it quieter as the volume LEDs don't even show usually as the master volume is so low).
So now the question, does anyone who has a NS6 run into a similar problem and found a better fix? Is there for instance any way to hack into the NS6 and turn the darn thing down a bit or something. I know this isn't a Nunark board, but thought someone might have some insight.
Cheers!
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 12:58 am
groovindj
What are you running the NS6 into?
If it's an amp, turn down the amp.
If it's powered speakers, turn down the powered speakers.
Job done!
If it's an amp, turn down the amp.
If it's powered speakers, turn down the powered speakers.
Job done!
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 6:03 am
Sintar
Powered speakers, and no, not quite that simple I'm afraid. The signal going out of the NS6 is so hot that I can't get the speakers loud enough when we go outdoors before they start clipping.
When using the DJM mixers I'd have them down very low (via the recessed knob on the back) and let the amps in the speakers do what they do best. Now they start clipping at even relatively low volumes. Quite a problem, last time we ended up running the NS6 through our backup mixer (the DJM) just to tone down the output signal. Not an ideal solution of course. It's clearly coming out way too loud, that what an amp is for, boosting the signal, not the mixer. The speakers end up sitting at less than one quarter volume before they clip.
When using the DJM mixers I'd have them down very low (via the recessed knob on the back) and let the amps in the speakers do what they do best. Now they start clipping at even relatively low volumes. Quite a problem, last time we ended up running the NS6 through our backup mixer (the DJM) just to tone down the output signal. Not an ideal solution of course. It's clearly coming out way too loud, that what an amp is for, boosting the signal, not the mixer. The speakers end up sitting at less than one quarter volume before they clip.
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 7:50 am
groovindj
Sintar wrote :
Powered speakers, and no, not quite that simple I'm afraid. The signal going out of the NS6 is so hot that I can't get the speakers loud enough when we go outdoors before they start clipping.
Yes it is that simple!
If the output of the NS6 is hot, turn down the gains on the speakers.
If the clip lights are coming on when you raise the speaker gains, then you're turning them up too high.
Let's say for example that your speakers are designed to take a 1v input signal and produce 300W RMS.
If your mixer is outputting 2v then you simply reduce the gains on the speakers so that only 1v gets through to the amp.
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 12:35 pm
synthet1c
you could change how much your master is changed when the knob on the controller is moved eg.
param_multiply 50% & master
**that will decrease the sensitivity by half
param_multiply 25% & master
**that will decrease the sensitivity by three quarters
param_multiply 50% & master
**that will decrease the sensitivity by half
param_multiply 25% & master
**that will decrease the sensitivity by three quarters
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 12:38 pm
groovindj
That's not going to help with him getting nothing on his output meter because he's got it wound down so much.
He needs to turn it up, and the speakers down.
I've just checked the spec of the NS6 on the Numark website and the stated max output is not that much different to my Xone:92 mixer, and I don't have any issues with speakers clipping.
He needs to turn it up, and the speakers down.
I've just checked the spec of the NS6 on the Numark website and the stated max output is not that much different to my Xone:92 mixer, and I don't have any issues with speakers clipping.
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 12:53 pm
djdad
Have you noticed what are the values that you get on GAIN when loading your songs ? Should be around 0db. If not, set AutoGAIN to AUTO in Config->Options
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 1:28 pm
Sintar
groovindj wrote :
Yes it is that simple!
If the output of the NS6 is hot, turn down the gains on the speakers.
If the clip lights are coming on when you raise the speaker gains, then you're turning them up too high.
Let's say for example that your speakers are designed to take a 1v input signal and produce 300W RMS.
If your mixer is outputting 2v then you simply reduce the gains on the speakers so that only 1v gets through to the amp.
Sintar wrote :
Powered speakers, and no, not quite that simple I'm afraid. The signal going out of the NS6 is so hot that I can't get the speakers loud enough when we go outdoors before they start clipping.
Yes it is that simple!
If the output of the NS6 is hot, turn down the gains on the speakers.
If the clip lights are coming on when you raise the speaker gains, then you're turning them up too high.
Let's say for example that your speakers are designed to take a 1v input signal and produce 300W RMS.
If your mixer is outputting 2v then you simply reduce the gains on the speakers so that only 1v gets through to the amp.
I wish it played out that simple, but the difference in volume we get out of the speakers before the clip lights come on is massive.
I agree with you in theory, but in practice it is playing out very differently.
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 5:35 pm
groovindj
Well if you really want to drop the level between the NS6 and the speakers, buy some XLR attenuators like the ones here
http://www.rothwellaudioproducts.co.uk/html/attenuators.html
You could also use the RCA outs on the NS6 instead. They have a lower output than the XLRs.
http://www.rothwellaudioproducts.co.uk/html/attenuators.html
You could also use the RCA outs on the NS6 instead. They have a lower output than the XLRs.
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 6:46 pm
Sintar
Cool, I'll look into those, cheers mate!
Pity one can't just adjust some internal settings on it though.
As for the RCA outputs, I didn't realize they ran lower than the XLR, unfortunately I'm using those too for another set of speakers. :)
Pity one can't just adjust some internal settings on it though.
As for the RCA outputs, I didn't realize they ran lower than the XLR, unfortunately I'm using those too for another set of speakers. :)
Posted Tue 04 Sep 12 @ 7:48 pm