yk23
I just bought a new computer after 15 minutes of use the song will take pitch up and slow down like 50% each way. Sounds like a slowed down chipmunk sound. It tends to happen when leaving a song playing if an effect on such as a hp/lpf. Normally when I loose the sound card changing latency or unticking safe mode will get the soundcard working. If I get virtualdj to respond I have to reboot my NS7. I caught turning off the motors would work if VDJ was not locked up. I'm running the newest NS7 driver, DPC's are less than 300 us, newest Nvidia driver(forgot the version). CPU runs about 8% avg It tried to the USB 2.0 port it seems to work, but I don't trust it. I still get an occasional pop and click.
I bought this system to replace my already fast system since the NS7 is a USB bandwidth hog and any little change in the OS would have a similar effect, but just happen a split second once every few nights. Here's my spec before and now.
Using VDJ 7.04 and have the Nvidia video card assigned to VDJ.
VDJ Sound set to Auto, optimize for scratching, 48khz set to Fast Resamp., Adv stretching , skin-fast resizing, NS7 latency 7ms/256 samples
Old System
Dell XPS m1330
2.6 6mg cache duo core
4gb of ram
128 mb 8400GS Nvidia video card
Win7 x32
New System:
Dell XPS 15 2nd Gen
i7-2630QM processor 2nd Gen 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.90 GHz
8gb of Ram
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M 2GB graphics with Optimus
1080p screen
Win7 x64
750gb hard drive
Tv tuner
thanks,
David
I bought this system to replace my already fast system since the NS7 is a USB bandwidth hog and any little change in the OS would have a similar effect, but just happen a split second once every few nights. Here's my spec before and now.
Using VDJ 7.04 and have the Nvidia video card assigned to VDJ.
VDJ Sound set to Auto, optimize for scratching, 48khz set to Fast Resamp., Adv stretching , skin-fast resizing, NS7 latency 7ms/256 samples
Old System
Dell XPS m1330
2.6 6mg cache duo core
4gb of ram
128 mb 8400GS Nvidia video card
Win7 x32
New System:
Dell XPS 15 2nd Gen
i7-2630QM processor 2nd Gen 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.90 GHz
8gb of Ram
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M 2GB graphics with Optimus
1080p screen
Win7 x64
750gb hard drive
Tv tuner
thanks,
David
Posted Thu 23 Jun 11 @ 11:43 pm
yk23
I found this to be more of a root cause with VDJ7/Advanced Stretching. With my older system VDJ7 would freeze/hard lock and sound would get really distorted intermittently. The only option I have was to hold down the power button and reboot. Right now I am using 6.1.2 and set to stretching to simple. The weird this is I tried on a few systems with the same processor/chipset but with the onboard Intel card and it works fine. I wouldn't mind using simple stretching but it sound like garbage on my Ns7 sound card if the pitch is anything but 0. Im now getting sound artifacts when moving the pitch up and down- something I haven’t had since my 1st MkII. I haven’t messed to much with latency/sound card config, but what settings I changed didn’t help. Any ideas?
thanks,
DJ Kavika
(David)
thanks,
DJ Kavika
(David)
Posted Mon 27 Jun 11 @ 2:33 pm
DHoude
Personally, I was told that the NS7 needed a faster processor speed (not more processor cores). I had a Sony Vaio with an i7 1.9ghz (2.9 turbo), 6 gig ram, etc. I thought surely Numark had not updated thier min spec with current times. But the performance was awful, so I called Numark support for most of the same complaints. They said that "my processor needs to meet the min spec of 2.4 ghz" (reguardless of type).
I was so sick of issues, I ruturned that laptop and I bought a 3.2 ghz desktop and have NEVER had any sound issues again (once set up properly).
Personally I found that with keylock off, my NS7 could work with a variety of slower computers. I also though that turning the RPM to 33 helped (less rotation data? maybe..). Turning keylock off may help in the short term, but the obvious answer would be to exceed that min spec by as much as possible. Which is not really possible with today's current laptops.
So I hope in a few years I hope I don't need a new board. Processors will be just catching upto where my desktop has been all along. Either that or Itch needs to get a hell of allot better and add video. Not holding my breath... So I am just sucking it up and carying a tower, UPS, monitor, keyboard and mouse around. It my stink, but it works great!
I was so sick of issues, I ruturned that laptop and I bought a 3.2 ghz desktop and have NEVER had any sound issues again (once set up properly).
Personally I found that with keylock off, my NS7 could work with a variety of slower computers. I also though that turning the RPM to 33 helped (less rotation data? maybe..). Turning keylock off may help in the short term, but the obvious answer would be to exceed that min spec by as much as possible. Which is not really possible with today's current laptops.
So I hope in a few years I hope I don't need a new board. Processors will be just catching upto where my desktop has been all along. Either that or Itch needs to get a hell of allot better and add video. Not holding my breath... So I am just sucking it up and carying a tower, UPS, monitor, keyboard and mouse around. It my stink, but it works great!
Posted Mon 27 Jun 11 @ 9:29 pm
yk23
Thanks for info. I was worried about that and original thought about getting an i3 2.6ghz. I will say my i7 with the "All CPU Gadget" shows maybe one of the cores at most 30% so I didn't think it was the issue but that might be the problem. Looking at the VDJ lockups the Keylock/Advanced Pitch strecting issue I had these hard lockups happen with the NS7, Audio8, KorgZero4 mixer and M-Audio connectiv. Since VDJ7 just has 3 settings for keylock/pitch strecting I was wondering if there was something more configurable, like a registry tweak.
thanks,
David
thanks,
David
Posted Tue 28 Jun 11 @ 9:09 am
DHoude
There are plenty of tweaks like shutting down windows Aero, etc. Which do help, but nothing like the right PC for the job. If you want to run VDJ and the the NS7, you will find as I did after doing every tweak, set up and even after building 5 different PCs (ranging from 32 bit, xp gaming mother boards on up). Nothing ran well enough that I trusted it live.
My new i5 3.2ghz (not turbo mode) Asus desktop is the only time I was ever happy and I have used it for a year (about 20 shows) with mixing music videos. Probably not the answer you were looking for. But I was tearing my hair out too. I intensly searched everything I could think of for 2 months. I am an IT professional and could not understand why I could not get. I actually personally built 2 of the desktops. I chose to go store bought as it was easier to return if it dd not work well enough. I of course modded that PC too (video card, more fans, bigger power supply, 2nd hard drive), within a few weeks, after I had decided it was accepable.
Do a search for a thread "How to get your NS7 to work flawlessly". This topic was gone over EXTENSIVLY there and I was part of it. That was during my troubleshooting. The short of it is, as soon as I gave in to Numark's advice and exceeded that min spec, the NS7 works as you would expect. Laptop processors (reguardless of how many cores) are just not fast enough yet, unless you run Itch. Witch for some reason is a hell of allot more effecient than VDJ with the NS7.
My new i5 3.2ghz (not turbo mode) Asus desktop is the only time I was ever happy and I have used it for a year (about 20 shows) with mixing music videos. Probably not the answer you were looking for. But I was tearing my hair out too. I intensly searched everything I could think of for 2 months. I am an IT professional and could not understand why I could not get. I actually personally built 2 of the desktops. I chose to go store bought as it was easier to return if it dd not work well enough. I of course modded that PC too (video card, more fans, bigger power supply, 2nd hard drive), within a few weeks, after I had decided it was accepable.
Do a search for a thread "How to get your NS7 to work flawlessly". This topic was gone over EXTENSIVLY there and I was part of it. That was during my troubleshooting. The short of it is, as soon as I gave in to Numark's advice and exceeded that min spec, the NS7 works as you would expect. Laptop processors (reguardless of how many cores) are just not fast enough yet, unless you run Itch. Witch for some reason is a hell of allot more effecient than VDJ with the NS7.
Posted Wed 29 Jun 11 @ 4:54 pm
michaelsleep
Hey guys, I had an HP with all the bells a whistles. 2.4 duo core. 4 gb of mem, 1024 dedicated on the video card. Just a great laptop (for a year ago) to power my NS7 and had nothing but latency issues. I did everything possible to make that thing work and nothing did.
Yesterday I said screw it, I wend to Best Buy and picked up the new Asus i7 gaming system. Holy crap I had no idea a computer could work this fast. I have had to do nothing to it. I simply installed it software and drivers, plugged it in and off I ran. Not one small spike in latency. I was not able to use large video files before with the HP because they took too long to load and now I am back to using 300,000 KB VOB files flawlessly.
I hope you get your system back up and running. Happy 4th of July
Yesterday I said screw it, I wend to Best Buy and picked up the new Asus i7 gaming system. Holy crap I had no idea a computer could work this fast. I have had to do nothing to it. I simply installed it software and drivers, plugged it in and off I ran. Not one small spike in latency. I was not able to use large video files before with the HP because they took too long to load and now I am back to using 300,000 KB VOB files flawlessly.
I hope you get your system back up and running. Happy 4th of July
Posted Mon 04 Jul 11 @ 6:05 pm
yk23
Well I found that somehow maybe when switching sound cards safe mode was getting checked automatically. On the how to make your NS7 run right post, the only thing I saw was to never check it. I consider this 1 out of 5 problems fixed. Still not sure if advanced strecthing is going to work. After enabling and disabling it I found out that having it enabled is the only way to go. I have always had timecode and pitch drift before the NS7. Now I have platter drift (just doesn't keep up). If I had the pitch set to 0%, it would sound like it was running at -4%. Also scratching would sometimes "walk then catch up. This all happening with pitchlock off. I think before version 6 I could turn on pitch lock till I was done mixing then switch it off, then everything would sound good. If I still cant get it to work going to use no ptich stretch / true vynil mode- what ever its called.
Problem 2 Installed Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Runtime Libraries for SBDJ plugins to run correctly, I mean not cause hard lockups.
Installed newest DirectX 9c updates- this may of helped. I ran for 2 hours last night no issues.
thanks,
David
Problem 2 Installed Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Runtime Libraries for SBDJ plugins to run correctly, I mean not cause hard lockups.
Installed newest DirectX 9c updates- this may of helped. I ran for 2 hours last night no issues.
thanks,
David
Posted Tue 05 Jul 11 @ 9:52 am
djtyme209
yk23 wrote :
I just bought a new computer after 15 minutes of use the song will take pitch up and slow down like 50% each way. Sounds like a slowed down chipmunk sound. It tends to happen when leaving a song playing if an effect on such as a hp/lpf. Normally when I loose the sound card changing latency or unticking safe mode will get the soundcard working. If I get virtualdj to respond I have to reboot my NS7. I caught turning off the motors would work if VDJ was not locked up. I'm running the newest NS7 driver, DPC's are less than 300 us, newest Nvidia driver(forgot the version). CPU runs about 8% avg It tried to the USB 2.0 port it seems to work, but I don't trust it. I still get an occasional pop and click.
I bought this system to replace my already fast system since the NS7 is a USB bandwidth hog and any little change in the OS would have a similar effect, but just happen a split second once every few nights. Here's my spec before and now.
Using VDJ 7.04 and have the Nvidia video card assigned to VDJ.
VDJ Sound set to Auto, optimize for scratching, 48khz set to Fast Resamp., Adv stretching , skin-fast resizing, NS7 latency 7ms/256 samples
Old System
Dell XPS m1330
2.6 6mg cache duo core
4gb of ram
128 mb 8400GS Nvidia video card
Win7 x32
New System:
Dell XPS 15 2nd Gen
i7-2630QM processor 2nd Gen 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.90 GHz
8gb of Ram
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M 2GB graphics with Optimus
1080p screen
Win7 x64
750gb hard drive
Tv tuner
thanks,
David
I bought this system to replace my already fast system since the NS7 is a USB bandwidth hog and any little change in the OS would have a similar effect, but just happen a split second once every few nights. Here's my spec before and now.
Using VDJ 7.04 and have the Nvidia video card assigned to VDJ.
VDJ Sound set to Auto, optimize for scratching, 48khz set to Fast Resamp., Adv stretching , skin-fast resizing, NS7 latency 7ms/256 samples
Old System
Dell XPS m1330
2.6 6mg cache duo core
4gb of ram
128 mb 8400GS Nvidia video card
Win7 x32
New System:
Dell XPS 15 2nd Gen
i7-2630QM processor 2nd Gen 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.90 GHz
8gb of Ram
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M 2GB graphics with Optimus
1080p screen
Win7 x64
750gb hard drive
Tv tuner
thanks,
David
i just went through the same thang you kinda did. sold my (old) laptop & bought a brand new laptop i7 2633QM 2.0GHZ to go along with my new NS7. as far as people saying need more GHZ i havent had any problems @ all & i've done well over ???? well i lost count cause i DJ like every other saturday in any given month. but what i did do (i also am a pc tech) i wiped the pc clean & installed a fresh copy of windows 7 64bit & the ONLY 2 Programs that i installed were VDJ & Serato itch. thats it i only use it for DJing. i do my pictures,movies & internet browsing on my desktop but the lap get turned on DJ with it & then sits there untill the next gig & as far as VDJ i havent changed any settings everything is @ its default settings hope this info helps in anyway
Posted Wed 06 Jul 11 @ 12:08 am
christianwheel
I bought a new Asus G53JW-A1 with 8GB of ram and loaded it up with 3 TB of hard drive space. After a lot of tweaking and experimenting, I've got the NS7 working with VDJ doing videos very well. Even with pitch lock on, the CPU meter never even gets past 25%.
Was an expensive machine ($2200) but definitely worth it. The computer not being able to keep up was NEVER an issue. Even though it's only 1.73 GHz (i'm also overclocking it though).
Was an expensive machine ($2200) but definitely worth it. The computer not being able to keep up was NEVER an issue. Even though it's only 1.73 GHz (i'm also overclocking it though).
Posted Wed 06 Jul 11 @ 3:26 am
yk23
I got most of this straigthened out- I think. I installed all the Directx 9c updates and the Latest Microsoft VC++ 2008 Runtime Libraries for the SBDJ video effects . Found out that was causing my VDJ hard lockups(different issue). Lately I have been using the Filters High&Low v1.0 by TexZK. I believe the timeouts occur when I trigger the effect. I used it a few times at home to fade out of a song. The song would become garbled till I turned off the effect. I normally would use flipping double, Cut and loop out before. I didnt touch that effect all night and DJ'ed one night with no errors. Also had advanced pitch stretching enabled. Im going to try the basic ones flipping double, cut and loop out.
thanks,
David
DJ Kavika
thanks,
David
DJ Kavika
Posted Thu 14 Jul 11 @ 3:12 pm
yk23
**FIXED** 2nd weekend - no problems with M-Audio Connectiv(Friday) and NS7(Saturday).
Issues were:
1. HPF/ LPF- when triggered would cause sound/midi crash/chipmunk sound on NS7 - deleted this effect.
2. Safe mode was getting checked automatically - VDJ hard lockups with NS7, garbled sound.
3. Missing Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Runtime Libraries VDJ crash(autoclose) when video effect triggered- maybe DirectX update helped too.
thanks,
David
DJKavika
Issues were:
1. HPF/ LPF- when triggered would cause sound/midi crash/chipmunk sound on NS7 - deleted this effect.
2. Safe mode was getting checked automatically - VDJ hard lockups with NS7, garbled sound.
3. Missing Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Runtime Libraries VDJ crash(autoclose) when video effect triggered- maybe DirectX update helped too.
thanks,
David
DJKavika
Posted Tue 19 Jul 11 @ 12:56 pm