Hi everybody. I'm looking for a fog machine, so have seen or do you know what's the difference between the Chauvet hurricane 700 and the American DJ mini fog?? Cuz I was going to buy the chauvet but when I saw it, it was so small that now I'm dissapointed. And both are 400w. i think the chauvet is 445w and the adj is 400w. So which one is better? I would personlly go with the chauvet, it seems more professional.
here you can see them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6yOJ0Q5qn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW4JWFuZmjo
Thanks!
here you can see them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6yOJ0Q5qn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW4JWFuZmjo
Thanks!
Posted Tue 15 Feb 11 @ 8:36 am
buy a hazer instead - initial price is more, but the effects are better IMO. we have one on each end of the truss over the dancefloor and a 30-45 burst is enough to fill the club and show every light beam in the place. just wish i could remember what models they were off the top of my head.
Posted Tue 15 Feb 11 @ 8:41 am
hummm ok thanks but what do you mean with "a 30-45 burst"? And what if I spend a lil more on a 700w or a 1000w machine? like the dyno fog from adj.
Posted Tue 15 Feb 11 @ 8:48 am
having had several different fog machines I would say 700w is the absolute minimum for decent output and getting quality without that weird burnt crayon smell. also using the right fluid can go a long way. I currently use the Chauvet Hurricane 1300 - and to be honest it is a little bit overkill for my applications. It is rated at 20,000cfm. I think the sweet spot for most people for price/performance would be the Hurricane 900. It is rated at 4000cfm and runs around $50 +tax. I think you will see the difference between a $35 investment and a $60 investment will be night and day.
Posted Tue 15 Feb 11 @ 11:17 am
sorry meant to say a 30-45 second burst. we have ours tied into the lighting software and are very DMX friendly. but - less than a minute is enough to fill the entire building with haze - and it does have some advantages over the regular foggers.
you can't taste or smell it.
it's easier on the customers. we have less complaints from our allergy sufferers now since we switched to hazers.
smaller particles in air - it lasts alot longer and i have to climb up and refill them alot less than with the foggers.
you can't taste or smell it.
it's easier on the customers. we have less complaints from our allergy sufferers now since we switched to hazers.
smaller particles in air - it lasts alot longer and i have to climb up and refill them alot less than with the foggers.
Posted Tue 15 Feb 11 @ 2:18 pm
+1 I have 2 Chauvet Ultimate Hz-1000's I picked up used for $150 each & they are the way to go. I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER use a 'fog machine' again lol
P.S. the fluid goes a long long way when you use a hazer also saving you big time on fluids. No big cloud of suffocating smoke that people absolutely hate!
P.S. the fluid goes a long long way when you use a hazer also saving you big time on fluids. No big cloud of suffocating smoke that people absolutely hate!
Posted Tue 15 Feb 11 @ 2:51 pm
ok thanks guys, i dont think we have hazers here in venezuela so i might go with a little fog machine only for the lights effects. i like the big cloud, sometimes it is fun but yeah it's annoying. and then if I buy a hazer in US I dont think I would be able to refill the haze fluid lol. so i'll go with fog. only choice! thanks!
Posted Tue 15 Feb 11 @ 10:26 pm
The hazer uses the same fluid.
Posted Wed 16 Feb 11 @ 1:24 am
IMO Hazers give you a more professional look as I use both fog and haze.
Fog: Gives you a thick cloud of fog wich will last long depending on the fluid used.
Haze some machines will run all night to keep the haze to a perfect level, (my prefered type) and some use busrt. Looks more professional as the light beams are well lit and you can still see the person your looking at through the smoke.
My opinion though. I do lots of mobile DJ'ing and people prefer haze to thick fog.
Fog: Gives you a thick cloud of fog wich will last long depending on the fluid used.
Haze some machines will run all night to keep the haze to a perfect level, (my prefered type) and some use busrt. Looks more professional as the light beams are well lit and you can still see the person your looking at through the smoke.
My opinion though. I do lots of mobile DJ'ing and people prefer haze to thick fog.
Posted Wed 16 Feb 11 @ 7:03 am
i'm with the hazer on this one. Far less chanc of setting of the fire alarm LOL.
More and more venues are making it tough to use a smoke machine due to the regs on automatic fire detection. In some venues it is all but impossible to use smoke. Go for the hazer and get an automatic unit that you can setup for a constsnt haze level. Set and forget.
Daz
More and more venues are making it tough to use a smoke machine due to the regs on automatic fire detection. In some venues it is all but impossible to use smoke. Go for the hazer and get an automatic unit that you can setup for a constsnt haze level. Set and forget.
Daz
Posted Wed 16 Feb 11 @ 2:04 pm
I've always really fancied a hazer, but does anyone know exactly what "less chance of setting off a fire alarm" means?!?!?
I DJ at weddings and in nice hotels. I can't risk ANY chance of setting off a smoke alarm, so can I use a hazer still, are there certain types that will or won't set off alarms?
Any insight and I'd love to know!
I DJ at weddings and in nice hotels. I can't risk ANY chance of setting off a smoke alarm, so can I use a hazer still, are there certain types that will or won't set off alarms?
Any insight and I'd love to know!
Posted Wed 16 Feb 11 @ 5:23 pm
Hi mate.
The short answer is no there are not any machines that definately won't set of a smoke alarm.
Wether a machine sets off the fire alarms is down to a number of factors. The type of detector used in the alarm system can make a big difference to how easily the alarm will be triggered, How much smoke or haze is used, Where the smoke is directed when released, What type of fluid is used, How the aircon or ventilation system disperses and extracts the smoke and how high the smoke sits in the room.
I have found that using a well controlled hazer, producing a low but constantly controled output works well. You do have to be carefull but less so when compared to holding down the button on a smoke machine while hopeing you don't pump too much out and set the alarm off. I experimented at home with the Hazer and a batery powered smoke detector to see what I could get away with.
Low level haze works well with most lighting effects and can be a bit less obvious to the punters too. Its works well as an effect in a club but wont give you that sudden blast or realy thick cloud the way a smoke machine can.
Daz
The short answer is no there are not any machines that definately won't set of a smoke alarm.
Wether a machine sets off the fire alarms is down to a number of factors. The type of detector used in the alarm system can make a big difference to how easily the alarm will be triggered, How much smoke or haze is used, Where the smoke is directed when released, What type of fluid is used, How the aircon or ventilation system disperses and extracts the smoke and how high the smoke sits in the room.
I have found that using a well controlled hazer, producing a low but constantly controled output works well. You do have to be carefull but less so when compared to holding down the button on a smoke machine while hopeing you don't pump too much out and set the alarm off. I experimented at home with the Hazer and a batery powered smoke detector to see what I could get away with.
Low level haze works well with most lighting effects and can be a bit less obvious to the punters too. Its works well as an effect in a club but wont give you that sudden blast or realy thick cloud the way a smoke machine can.
Daz
Posted Wed 16 Feb 11 @ 10:21 pm
Hmm, quite a few companies now call their 'smoke machines' hazers. This is not correct. Hazers use compressed air to create the light film - there are no heater pads in a hazer. Check this vid I did a while back...
Posted Wed 16 Feb 11 @ 10:26 pm
That's one noisy hazer Cheers lol, hope u have a loud system to drown it out.
Posted Wed 16 Feb 11 @ 11:34 pm
I use the American DJ Fog storm 700. Its 700 watts and it puts out 3,500 cubic feet of smoke. The tubing inside is alittle widder than many to prevent clogging and its strong for its size. You cant go wrong paying 69 dollars. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/American-DJ-Fog-Storm-700-Fog-Machine?sku=800521 I use black label Fog fluid and it works really good. It has long hang time
Posted Thu 17 Feb 11 @ 12:28 am
reigar_dj wrote :
ok thanks guys, i dont think we have hazers here in venezuela so i might go with a little fog machine only for the lights effects. i like the big cloud, sometimes it is fun but yeah it's annoying. and then if I buy a hazer in US I dont think I would be able to refill the haze fluid lol. so i'll go with fog. only choice! thanks!
djrobinhamilton wrote :
The hazer uses the same fluid.
Haze machines use a different type of fluid. There some hybrid machines out there which are really foggers but behave more like hazers. Just read the specification before you buy.
Posted Fri 18 Feb 11 @ 10:53 am
@ Musicalcheers, That explains the huge price differance between foggers and hazers. Wow that compressor is loud!
I have two dead american DJ foggers sitting in the shed right now a dynofog 700 and a smaller one they just got gummed up to the point where they just wont work despite my efforts to clean them out. Maitenence is very important for the life of your foggers.
I have two dead american DJ foggers sitting in the shed right now a dynofog 700 and a smaller one they just got gummed up to the point where they just wont work despite my efforts to clean them out. Maitenence is very important for the life of your foggers.
Posted Fri 18 Feb 11 @ 12:53 pm
I just purchased a Used Jem 2K Hazer and it smells like Burnt Crayons when it is turned on. I know another person mentioned this smell and I was wondering what it is caused from. The unit still smells like it, even though it has been off for over 3 days. I appreciate any help.
Thank you!
Chris Miller
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Thank you!
Chris Miller
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Posted Mon 02 May 11 @ 3:52 pm
How do you know what burnt crayons smell like?
Posted Mon 02 May 11 @ 4:41 pm
Dear Charlie Wilson,
I was informed by the previous owner that that is what the hazer smelled like when he used it and when he fired it up for me it had a burnt wax smell that was horribly offensive. Still not sure what it is caused by.
I was informed by the previous owner that that is what the hazer smelled like when he used it and when he fired it up for me it had a burnt wax smell that was horribly offensive. Still not sure what it is caused by.
Posted Mon 02 May 11 @ 10:23 pm