The13bats
I had a nice large play list made up for last Friday night, it was good when I shut things down thursday night then when I set up and get really to rock friday night the play lists are still there, two were the same just different names,
When I would click on the play list they would load but with BPM's missing which was my first warning then when I would load a song to play it was "error" and wouldn't play.
I had to just search for the tune I wanted to play and if I found it that way it worked and would play and tag for BPM was there.
So what would have corrupted the play lists?
How can I fix that or avoid it in the future?
Many thanks!
Cheers,
P.
When I would click on the play list they would load but with BPM's missing which was my first warning then when I would load a song to play it was "error" and wouldn't play.
I had to just search for the tune I wanted to play and if I found it that way it worked and would play and tag for BPM was there.
So what would have corrupted the play lists?
How can I fix that or avoid it in the future?
Many thanks!
Cheers,
P.
Posted Mon 25 Oct 10 @ 12:45 pm
djdad
It seems that you now have different path in the files included in your playlist. This happened because you probably changed USB port and pluged your drive with different Letter. Go to Disk Manager and change the letter of the disk
Posted Mon 25 Oct 10 @ 4:53 pm
The13bats
DJDad,
Thanks for the reply confirming what I thought,
But it bring me more thoughts and questions,
Perhaps you can help me understand this a bit more,
Lets say I have 2 USB poets we will call 1 and 2,
what you are saying is that I made the play lists using post one and when I plugged into port two it assigned the drive a different letter and that is why the path to the play lists would not work when I plugged into port two.
I was under the impression that if I have 2 open USB ports and plug an external drive into either port that the drive letter of that drive will always default to the next open letter after C being the computers main drive,
In other words I didn't believe/know that USB ports had a drive letter assigned to them,
This idea is easy for me to test, I made a new list last night and will try it in different USB ports and see if I can reproduce the problem.
Many thanks!
Cheers,
P.
Thanks for the reply confirming what I thought,
But it bring me more thoughts and questions,
Perhaps you can help me understand this a bit more,
Lets say I have 2 USB poets we will call 1 and 2,
what you are saying is that I made the play lists using post one and when I plugged into port two it assigned the drive a different letter and that is why the path to the play lists would not work when I plugged into port two.
I was under the impression that if I have 2 open USB ports and plug an external drive into either port that the drive letter of that drive will always default to the next open letter after C being the computers main drive,
In other words I didn't believe/know that USB ports had a drive letter assigned to them,
This idea is easy for me to test, I made a new list last night and will try it in different USB ports and see if I can reproduce the problem.
Many thanks!
Cheers,
P.
Posted Tue 26 Oct 10 @ 10:43 am
djdad
Well the truth is that Windows assign a letter to your drives automatically and not according to USB ports. Every time you plug a new HD or Stick in the USB port, Windows assign the first available letter. In order you HD to be read as a specific letter assign a letter like X, Z or T (you know, bottom of the alphabetic list) so, you may be sure that next time you plug the drive again it will have the same letter.
It would be also useful to plug all your USB devices (especially sound cards) to the same USB port that you have installed it. This way you will never have issues. Mark your cables and the USB ports with some color signs or something.. Trust me your djlife will be much easier.lol
It would be also useful to plug all your USB devices (especially sound cards) to the same USB port that you have installed it. This way you will never have issues. Mark your cables and the USB ports with some color signs or something.. Trust me your djlife will be much easier.lol
Posted Tue 26 Oct 10 @ 2:14 pm
The13bats
I tested the idea and the USB port made no difference this time the play list stayed intact,
I have no idea why the drive would have been given a different letter that last time and never before that...and I never paid attention to which USB port it was in,
Another thing that pretty much kills the theory that this is a case of the drive having the wrong Letter to match the play list is that the rest of the data base that night was fine, only the play list was messed up.
So what would have hit just a play list and not the entire database....hum?
I have no idea why the drive would have been given a different letter that last time and never before that...and I never paid attention to which USB port it was in,
Another thing that pretty much kills the theory that this is a case of the drive having the wrong Letter to match the play list is that the rest of the data base that night was fine, only the play list was messed up.
So what would have hit just a play list and not the entire database....hum?
Posted Tue 26 Oct 10 @ 10:34 pm
djdad
In VDJ hard disks are Hot Plug (i think this is the right word). I mean no matter which letter your system assigns to a HD, the database still works fine. VDJ somehow ignores the Path Drive Letter and displays the files correctly. The only issue is the playlists.
Further on that, since the Ver7 supports nested Filter and Favorite Folders, i prefer to build those rather playlists. They are more powerfull.
Further on that, since the Ver7 supports nested Filter and Favorite Folders, i prefer to build those rather playlists. They are more powerfull.
Posted Wed 27 Oct 10 @ 3:49 am
The13bats
I am not trying to be difficult but rather learn this software,
In the past when I lost BPM tags and other custom touches during a hard drive back up it was shown to me that the drive letter was the issue,
I had to go in and chance the path letter in the whole data base...it fixed that issue at that time.
In this thread you blamed my play list problem on the USB socket /drive letter and now say that the drive letter only effects play lists,
The night I had the issues with the play list I didn't have any other drive type hardware plugged in and so no way the drive got assigned a new letter ( but possible )
Personal tastes aside, shouldn't all features of a software work?
I will look closer at a favorites folder but can you tell me how it is more powerful than a play list?
Many thanks for all the help,
Cheers,
P.
In the past when I lost BPM tags and other custom touches during a hard drive back up it was shown to me that the drive letter was the issue,
I had to go in and chance the path letter in the whole data base...it fixed that issue at that time.
In this thread you blamed my play list problem on the USB socket /drive letter and now say that the drive letter only effects play lists,
The night I had the issues with the play list I didn't have any other drive type hardware plugged in and so no way the drive got assigned a new letter ( but possible )
Personal tastes aside, shouldn't all features of a software work?
I will look closer at a favorites folder but can you tell me how it is more powerful than a play list?
Many thanks for all the help,
Cheers,
P.
Posted Wed 27 Oct 10 @ 8:38 am
jpboggis
External drives are hot pluggable in VirtualDJ - Each has its own database (Stored in the root of the drive) allowing it to be hot swapped with the database information fully intact. The drive letter does not matter for external drives.
However, playlists ARE dependant on the drive letter and path\filename of the song. If the drive letter changes, then the entry in the playlist will no-longer be valid.
Using virtual folders is an alternative to using playlists. The advantage is these will be stored in the database of an external drive if any of the files in the virtual folder are on that drive. This means that the virtual folders will appear when you plug the drive into any system running VirtualDJ.
However, playlists ARE dependant on the drive letter and path\filename of the song. If the drive letter changes, then the entry in the playlist will no-longer be valid.
Using virtual folders is an alternative to using playlists. The advantage is these will be stored in the database of an external drive if any of the files in the virtual folder are on that drive. This means that the virtual folders will appear when you plug the drive into any system running VirtualDJ.
Posted Wed 27 Oct 10 @ 12:10 pm
The13bats
Okay...then my issues was due to the wrong drive letter for that Play llist,
I will have to really try to reproduce that because no other drives were plugged in to make the drive receive the wrong letter,
I will look at using the favorites list now....
I will have to really try to reproduce that because no other drives were plugged in to make the drive receive the wrong letter,
I will look at using the favorites list now....
Posted Wed 27 Oct 10 @ 12:55 pm
IamDJChuck
It may not have been an issue with other drives when you had the problem with the list, rather when you CREATED it.
As an example, if you had a flash drived plugged in and your external hard drive played your gig, created your playlist etc etc and then shut down for the night. Next day, no flashdrive, just exteral HD and the external HD gets a different letter.
Database still works but your playlist doesn't because it's looking for the files on a specific drive... i.e h:\music\ac dc\thunderstruck.mp3
as opposed to the VDJ database which is on every drive in the root directory and it points to files like this: (root)\music\ac dc\thunderstruck.mp3
The best thing you can do, as daddydj suggested, is to manually assign your external drive it's own letter.. such z:
This way you are gauranteed that no other drive will be assigned that letter by mistake.
if you need help on manually assigning drive letters I could probably give you a step by step. Or you could try google.
DjChuck
As an example, if you had a flash drived plugged in and your external hard drive played your gig, created your playlist etc etc and then shut down for the night. Next day, no flashdrive, just exteral HD and the external HD gets a different letter.
Database still works but your playlist doesn't because it's looking for the files on a specific drive... i.e h:\music\ac dc\thunderstruck.mp3
as opposed to the VDJ database which is on every drive in the root directory and it points to files like this: (root)\music\ac dc\thunderstruck.mp3
The best thing you can do, as daddydj suggested, is to manually assign your external drive it's own letter.. such z:
This way you are gauranteed that no other drive will be assigned that letter by mistake.
if you need help on manually assigning drive letters I could probably give you a step by step. Or you could try google.
DjChuck
Posted Wed 27 Oct 10 @ 1:28 pm
tndj4u
You know, you can also go into Disk Management, (right click on My Computer and choose Manage), and you can right click on your USB drive and ASSIGN it a drive letter, "M" for example. Then every time you plug in THAT USB drive, it will be assigned "M". You can do that for each computer you use. That way you have consistency with the drive letter.
Posted Thu 28 Oct 10 @ 11:59 am
bryantpb
jpboggis wrote :
External drives are hot pluggable in VirtualDJ - Each has its own database (Stored in the root of the drive) allowing it to be hot swapped with the database information fully intact. The drive letter does not matter for external drives.
However, playlists ARE dependant on the drive letter and path\filename of the song. If the drive letter changes, then the entry in the playlist will no-longer be valid.
Using virtual folders is an alternative to using playlists. The advantage is these will be stored in the database of an external drive if any of the files in the virtual folder are on that drive. This means that the virtual folders will appear when you plug the drive into any system running VirtualDJ.
However, playlists ARE dependant on the drive letter and path\filename of the song. If the drive letter changes, then the entry in the playlist will no-longer be valid.
Using virtual folders is an alternative to using playlists. The advantage is these will be stored in the database of an external drive if any of the files in the virtual folder are on that drive. This means that the virtual folders will appear when you plug the drive into any system running VirtualDJ.
Hmmm, I was always under the impression that the virtual folders do NOT eep the songs in a specific (called for) order, but a play list always will. If I am wrong, please show me how to manage a Virtual folder so that the songs will ALWAYS appear in the created order and never change upon opening again at a later date.???
Posted Fri 29 Oct 10 @ 8:42 am
jpboggis
They will be sorted by whichever column you choose in the VirtualDJ browser.
One method for setting a specific order is to use a field (Such as the new custom Field1) to set an index number, then sort the files by that column, e.g:
01
02
03
...
10
11
12
....
An advantage of this method is you can change the order by editing the index numbers. The order of files in playlists cannot easily be changed (Without manually editing the playlist file using Notepad, etc.)
NOTE: If you have playlists with incorrect paths, you can open them with Notepad and use search and replace to replace the incorrect drive letter and/or path. The playlist files can be found in My Documents\VirtualDJ\Playlists
One method for setting a specific order is to use a field (Such as the new custom Field1) to set an index number, then sort the files by that column, e.g:
01
02
03
...
10
11
12
....
An advantage of this method is you can change the order by editing the index numbers. The order of files in playlists cannot easily be changed (Without manually editing the playlist file using Notepad, etc.)
NOTE: If you have playlists with incorrect paths, you can open them with Notepad and use search and replace to replace the incorrect drive letter and/or path. The playlist files can be found in My Documents\VirtualDJ\Playlists
Posted Fri 29 Oct 10 @ 12:24 pm