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Topic: How slippy should a Slip Mat be?

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I have been watching a few of DJ AM's video's

I'm learning to scratch like him but i notice when he scratches, he doesn't need to give the vinyl a little push forward.

You see, If i scratch and my last scratch is a back scratch, it takes a few split seconds for the vinyl to get back up to speed with the rotating platter, consequently giving a sound that don't sound too nice.

I've seen on some of DJ AM's video's, the platter instantly grabs the vinyl and there's no delay. But it still remains slippy for scratching? How can this be?

Thanks

This is the video that caught my attention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9tOL8hcxs
 
Posted Mon 01 Mar 10 @ 3:42 pm
Theres a few things u need to compare:
1) Are you using the same turntables? The torque on turntables completely effects how fast your vinyls will pick up
2) Are you using the same types of slipmats? Also are you using wax paper too? (Cut wax paper in the shape of a slipmat for more slip by placing them under your slipmat)
3) Which ASIO card are you using. I love my MK2, but I know its not as responsive as an SSL box or something similar

Think about those things, might help you a bit
 
1) I'm using exactly the same Turn Tables, Stanton's T60.. Pack's plenty of Torque (4.8Kg iirc?)
2) Exact same slip mats, bought at the same time, so even wear and tear. One has a wax paper, other dosn't
3) I'm suing my RMX. I agree that's it not too responsive.
 
I own Stanton t60's & in no way shape or form are they good enough to scratch on. You could use KY under the slip mats & it still wouldn't cut it.

I only use them to digitize my vinyl. Would never do a gig with them. DJ AM is NOT using Stanton t60's in the vid. (not sure what they are, guessing 1200's, but NOT T60's)
 
torque should be enough for u not to push the record forward. i dont know how that table specifically performs. and so long as your speed of the record is over 0..
i've tried scratching on a technics 1200 mkII turntable that i'ved used with virtual vinyl and it just didnt feel right. a serato vinyl and numark tt500 or ttx feels perfect. plenty .... torq.


doesnt matter to good djs what tables they have. their hands can adjust well from t60 to mkII to ttx. i've even seen djs do crazy stuf on belt drive tables...
 
There are 2 kinds of slip mats. The regular one that you can buy anywhere and the other is the very thin like papper. Buy the regular matts and when you become very good, buy the butter rugs. The butter rugs require hand control because its very slipper.
 
ghettotech wrote :

doesnt matter to good djs what tables they have. their hands can adjust well from t60 to mkII to ttx. i've even seen djs do crazy stuf on belt drive tables...


I agree with ghettotech, although the better the turntable the easier it will be to learn to scratch. I use http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/covers_large/BTR003ACSM.jpg
Those are super slick, you have a slipmat for the platter and then you put another slipmat on top of the first slipmat!! Straight Butter!! Sometimes when I'm back scratchin the record will just stop even though the platter is spinnin, lol!!
 
Those are definitely not Stanton T60s in the video. I'm 99% sure they're Technic 1210s. I use Numark TTXs and they're perfect for scratching, no lag whatsoever.
 
 
In the video.. Hes using technics 1200s with Sure m44-7 needles.
 
Caliente123 wrote :
In the video.. Hes using technics 1200s with Sure m44-7 needles.


How on earth can you tell that? The needles I mean
 
and let me add as a newbie who has had his hands on both numark tables and technics i'll say the numark tables (tt500 and ttx) feel very good with that high torque (about 4.7) compared to techs 1200's which are a little less than 4. from when i got the numark tables just holding the vinyl felt like i had like 7 rottweilers on a leash ready to attack. numark tables with their torque dont even need an aftermarket slipmat. maybe for beat juggling and looks. but scratching wise my scratching changed instantly. especially my left hand. my right hand is still way better than my left and my brain can talk directly to my right hand... its just too bad numark turntables are crappy overall quality wise and will start acting up in less than a year so i would recommend 1200's over them.
regardless of how much you see a used numark turntable just get a technics 1200. numark as a company is just not a quality company. they have refused to perfect their products. and have given up on the turntables. (they'd rather sell dj hero toys than turntables coz thats where the money is)

for hiphop djs if u wanna play like a pro u have to buy the same thing a pro has: same tables, same mixer, same computer platform and same dj program...
 
Not always the slipmat, can sometimes be the hole in the middle of the record that has a lot to do with it, if it's slack as piss you'll struggle with there been to much spin!
 
@ Fault. When you pause the video, you will see a white square block.
 
I'm sorry, i shell explain my self a bit better.

The platter dose NOT slow down or stop what so ever.

I have waxed the platters with collinite and there like glass now, so slippery.

What i was wondering is, you obv have to have a slippy slip mat to scratch. But in the video when DJ am scratches, the slip mat just picks up speed again no problem. If there were no friction, it would slowly build up speed as the platter underneath it would spin.

And of cause i don't think Am would use Stantons LOL
 


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