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Hi all

I screwed up (thanks Vista) and lost all my VDJ settings when I updated to VDJ6 so now I've got to start again with all of my controller settings and I'm trying to do this with the new mapper thing. Whilst there is a mapper for the Korg Nanopad, it only seems to support the XY pad as a single crossfader. Mine has a custom set that sends midi CC messages for X, Y and pad touch. I can't set this in the Nanopad mapper, and if I try to use the generic midi mapper it doesn't even respond to any midi messages from the Nanopad, even if I remove the nanopad mapper.

Anyone able to help here? In VDJ 5 I used to have it set up so tapping the pad enabled an effect (letting go disabled it), then X and Y controlled the first two sliders for that effect. It was awesome (like a Kaoss pad!!) but I'm now missing it in VDJ 6 :o(

Thanks

rob
 
Posted Fri 26 Jun 09 @ 1:50 pm
 
Cheers mate. That definition you linked to has solved the problem. I didn't find it when I searched for nanopad for some reason! I've also discovered how to set up my nanopad to do the temporary active effect on the XY pad - you need to set up the nanopad to send values of 0 for on and off for XY pad touch. That may help some people!
 
this is awesome! It did the trick after an hour of scratching my primate like brain. :)

The one thing I can not figure out is how to use the X, Y, Touch to map to your effect slider/controls. I have the top row on scene one mapped to deck 1 effects. bottom row is deck 2 effects. I want to be able to control the effect parms with the XY pad.

What should I do?
 
djchad72 wrote :
this is awesome! It did the trick after an hour of scratching my primate like brain. :)

The one thing I can not figure out is how to use the X, Y, Touch to map to your effect slider/controls. I have the top row on scene one mapped to deck 1 effects. bottom row is deck 2 effects. I want to be able to control the effect parms with the XY pad.

What should I do?


me too... the xy pad is still unexplored and useless. Hope to see a full key defnition soon !
 
djdad wrote :
djchad72 wrote :
this is awesome! It did the trick after an hour of scratching my primate like brain. :)

The one thing I can not figure out is how to use the X, Y, Touch to map to your effect slider/controls. I have the top row on scene one mapped to deck 1 effects. bottom row is deck 2 effects. I want to be able to control the effect parms with the XY pad.

What should I do?


me too... the xy pad is still unexplored and useless. Hope to see a full key defnition soon !


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Well in 5.2.1, you could specify X as Parm 1 and Y as Parm 2... or as the Wet/Dry modifer. worked great with the flanger. There is a "slider" control in the VDJ Script language; however when I apply it as "effect slider 1" to XY or TOuch, I get no response. What I may have to try is building a mapping for each effect, although they will overlap, hopefully it can control all that way.
 
I will look into this myself, I have been busy with events but things have cooled down so I can take another look at it.
 
@djchad72
Well i tried the ver 5.xx and all i can get from the XYpad is Ctrl 1, no matter X or Y value. so i did manage to control paramet 1 of the active FX, but nothing else. Have you gone further?
 
djdad wrote :
@djchad72
Well i tried the ver 5.xx and all i can get from the XYpad is Ctrl 1, no matter X or Y value. so i did manage to control paramet 1 of the active FX, but nothing else. Have you gone further?


I think I know the issue now, that I look back to how I did this in 5.2.1. When you go to "learn" the note you need to put your finger exactly where you will start to activate the effect slider. Mine reads like this in the MIDI CONFIG listing:

CTRL 1 effect_slider_1 on deck 1 (it is set as a slider knob, absolute.)
PITCH effect_slider_2 on deck 1 (it is set as a slider knob, absolute.)

This seems to work pretty well. I think the issue on the new nanopad in 6.0.1 is the fact you cant autolearn the exactly positioning of your finger to determine the range of values for that control as a slider. Therefore it is assuming it is a button vs a knob. I am pretty new to MIDI mapping... completely admit that. HOWEVER, hopefully I am at least giving someone with more knowledge an idea?
 
so someone has to write a propper mapper with events..like...
If Fx1 is active then XYPad controls effect slider 1 of Fx1...
If Fx2 is active then XYPAd controls effect slider 1 of Fx2 ...and so on.

If not possible, then i may also buy the other KorgNano...the one with the sliders.
 
yeah, i have the nanoKontrol and it is a beauty with the sampler. I have another post going to figure out how to map the start/stop on 1 button vs two. Other than that, it is great.

It would fit the effects gig pretty nice, but it was really cool how the XY pad worked in 5.2.1 with the right mapping. You couldnt get all out of control with your finger or it would end up chirping, though. Its just too bad its disposition didnt improve with VDJ6... at least that we have found yet. :)

What I might do for my current workaround is leave my mapping for the nanopad like this:
Top Row: Deck 1 for flanger, beatgrid, tk filter, panv, etc...
Bottom Row: Deck 2 for the same order.

Then on my NanoKontrol ill map my scene 3 (scene 1 and 2 controls my sampler) to use the fader and knobs to control the parms of each effect. I may give that a try later this week.

If anyone has another other ideas or solutions to make the XY pad work better with the effects, that would be great.
 
To use the XY pad for the sliders with effects try this out...

SC2 TPX = effect slider 1
SC2 TPY = effect slider 2


this will make it so that what ever active effect is on the XY will control the two sliders.
 
natedawg24 wrote :
To use the XY pad for the sliders with effects try this out...

SC2 TPX = effect slider 1
SC2 TPY = effect slider 2


this will make it so that what ever active effect is on the XY will control the two sliders.


will this only work on scn 2?
 
yes only applies to scene 2 that has the effects mapped but you would set the same values just to a different scene
 
Here is a line from my KorgNanoPad mapper.
Quote :
<map value="SC3 B1" action="deck 1 var $cue ? deck 1 set_cue 1 &amp; skin_pannel &apos;32&apos; on : deck 1 cue_play 1 &amp; skin_pannel &apos;32&apos; on " />


All i need for cue button to act like this.... If there is no cue, then set (that's ok), if there is a cue then play (that's ok). I need to add the following... If i press the button for more than 3 sec then i want to delete the cue. Is that possible with the cue_play command or do i have to change it with cue_stop or hot_cue? Can you hlep me with a line?

thanks
 
 
There is an verb holding that allows you to perform a different function if the button is held down, e.g:

holding 3000ms ? delete_cue 1 : hot_cue 1


However, the downside is this will cause the normal action (Hot cue) to trigger when the button is released instead of pressed. Because it's very difficult to always press and release a button in the exactly the same amount of time, this will cause a slight delay/lag when trying to trigger a hot cue on the beat.

A better solution is to designate a separate button as a SHIFT button and use that in combination with your hot cue button(s) to delete the cue, that way there will be no delay when triggering (The hot cue trggers immediately on pressing the button.)

Information on how to create a SHIFT button can be found on the following page: http://www.virtualdj.com/homepage/jpboggis/blogs/3702/VDJscript_examples.html
 
I thought so too, thank you Mr.Script !!!
 
Did any of you resolve how to add the effect filter to the touchpad? I would love if someone helped me do this.
 
 
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