Jakes Daddy
I am considering buying a controller, and am looking at the BCD2000 or the Herc MKII (but currently favouring the BCD2000 as its slightly bigger and seems more 'substantially' built).
I am planning on using it purely as a controller, and will be using another (good quality) sound card into a conventional mixer.
For audio, does anyone have any feel for the latency ? IE. when I press play, will it be 'instant' (near instant) - I guess what I'm trying to get it close to is a quality CD deck.
Any views ??
Cheers
JD
I am planning on using it purely as a controller, and will be using another (good quality) sound card into a conventional mixer.
For audio, does anyone have any feel for the latency ? IE. when I press play, will it be 'instant' (near instant) - I guess what I'm trying to get it close to is a quality CD deck.
Any views ??
Cheers
JD
Posted Tue 19 Dec 06 @ 10:12 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
I can only speak for Mk2 that I have (AND NOT PREVIOUS MODELS, they are not good).
Its very instant, and very much like a rackmount dual cd player (the feel and responsiveness).
So it works great:)
Think the BCD2000 performs as good as a controller.
It only has issues as a soundcard.
Posted Tue 19 Dec 06 @ 10:20 pm
moramax
Jakes Daddy
the bcd2000 is controller for home users and semiprofessional users like hercules....
hercules is supported by virtual dj from many time than bcd..and it's more stable...
the design, key, slider, knob of bcd are better then djconsolle...
virtualdj with version 4.0 now support BCD2000 but in many case there are audio problems....it's a issue that could be solved with new drives....in my case bcd work perfect.....
there are some tutorial in the forum that explain how configure your system to try to obtain a stable configuration.....in many case the result is good...in the others not....
the bcd2000 is controller for home users and semiprofessional users like hercules....
hercules is supported by virtual dj from many time than bcd..and it's more stable...
the design, key, slider, knob of bcd are better then djconsolle...
virtualdj with version 4.0 now support BCD2000 but in many case there are audio problems....it's a issue that could be solved with new drives....in my case bcd work perfect.....
there are some tutorial in the forum that explain how configure your system to try to obtain a stable configuration.....in many case the result is good...in the others not....
Posted Tue 19 Dec 06 @ 11:03 pm
cioce
The best latency time of BCD2000 is 4ms http://www.virtualdj.com/blog/juliocqb/image37.jpg but the driver compatibility is horrible, in a lot of computer the controller doesn't work.
With Hercules MK2 and ASIO4ALL you can work at 2ms http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/8205/immaginehx1.jpg
With Hercules MK2 and ASIO4ALL you can work at 2ms http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/8205/immaginehx1.jpg
Posted Wed 20 Dec 06 @ 8:58 am
sbangs
btw dont know if uv seen it the bcd2000 is going to be canceled and redone and released as bcd2 soon
Posted Wed 20 Dec 06 @ 11:46 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
lol ;)
Guys! He as asking about using the BCD2000 PURELY AS A CONTROLLER, with a different card as soundcard ;)
In other words, only use the BCD as midi controller.... And that works fine ;)
Posted Wed 20 Dec 06 @ 9:00 pm
moramax
i'm agree with dj-in-norway....bcd2000 work fine if you use only a controller.....
Posted Wed 20 Dec 06 @ 9:43 pm
juliocqb
well, BCD works great as a controller but it is working ok with some laptops too, I know some spanish users that are working ok with their laptops I am using a desktop and i have never had problems using the bcd as a sound card either so, but i don't know, may be the hardware inse of your machine or maybe some software is caussing conflicts with the bcd, but you guys are ok, you could use the bcd just as a controller and you will be ok...
regards
dj quintana
regards
dj quintana
Posted Wed 20 Dec 06 @ 10:10 pm
djdad
I have tried MKII and i bought BCD2000
From my point of view.. if you want a controller buy a controller. If you want a soundcard buy a soundcard. If you want them both then you buy troubles!
Get a BCD and a descent soundcard.
From my point of view.. if you want a controller buy a controller. If you want a soundcard buy a soundcard. If you want them both then you buy troubles!
Get a BCD and a descent soundcard.
Posted Wed 20 Dec 06 @ 10:49 pm
arrabistadj
Hi dj in norway:
can you please clarify for us newbies:
"Guys! He as asking about using the BCD2000 PURELY AS A CONTROLLER, with a different card as soundcard ;)
In other words, only use the BCD as midi controller.... And that works fine ;) "
I am thinking of buying VDJ and bcd2000 ..i have soundblater audigy external soundcrad. would thi be what you are talking about ? ie using bcd but not as a soundcard in the settings in VDJ?
Also do you guys think it ok to buy this bcd2000 release ( ie do we have enough fixes right now for vdj compatibility) or wait a couple of months for new one with all the fixes?
any help to shed more light on this matter would be appreciated guys....\\
Cheers
Arrabistadj
can you please clarify for us newbies:
"Guys! He as asking about using the BCD2000 PURELY AS A CONTROLLER, with a different card as soundcard ;)
In other words, only use the BCD as midi controller.... And that works fine ;) "
I am thinking of buying VDJ and bcd2000 ..i have soundblater audigy external soundcrad. would thi be what you are talking about ? ie using bcd but not as a soundcard in the settings in VDJ?
Also do you guys think it ok to buy this bcd2000 release ( ie do we have enough fixes right now for vdj compatibility) or wait a couple of months for new one with all the fixes?
any help to shed more light on this matter would be appreciated guys....\\
Cheers
Arrabistadj
Posted Fri 22 Dec 06 @ 12:14 am
Jakes Daddy
Well, just to answer my own question :-) .....
I took the plunge and brought the BCD2000. I 'compared' it in the shop with the MK2 (ie. I could touch both and feel the relative quality but neither were plugged into anything) - decided that the MK2 felt like a cheap plastic toy, and the BCD felt ... well .... slightly less cheap (by no means 'pro' but not bad)
Got it plugged into my desktop, configured VDJ to use it as a controller, and use my existing sound card for audio out (which then goes into my mixer) - all works well.
As far as latency is concerned, its OK. I've got the driver tuned down to 4ms and its fine. Its certainly more responsive than the pile of poop Numark CD22 which I use at the club I play at :-)
As a pretty well experienced 'semi-pro' (working every weekend for the past 14 years, playing on classic 1210s, Pioneer desktop units and Denon rack mount CDs), I'm now looking at the possibility of going 'digital' (hence looking at vdj and a controller)
The BCD is OK, but if I decide to go MP3, it probably wont make the grade and I will be looking for something more robust / quality.
(PS. the thing that bugs me most about the BCD at the moment is the layout - the right hand deck is OK as its a 'conventional' layout. However, the left hand deck is 'backwards' in that the pitch etc is to the left of the jog wheel !!)
I took the plunge and brought the BCD2000. I 'compared' it in the shop with the MK2 (ie. I could touch both and feel the relative quality but neither were plugged into anything) - decided that the MK2 felt like a cheap plastic toy, and the BCD felt ... well .... slightly less cheap (by no means 'pro' but not bad)
Got it plugged into my desktop, configured VDJ to use it as a controller, and use my existing sound card for audio out (which then goes into my mixer) - all works well.
As far as latency is concerned, its OK. I've got the driver tuned down to 4ms and its fine. Its certainly more responsive than the pile of poop Numark CD22 which I use at the club I play at :-)
As a pretty well experienced 'semi-pro' (working every weekend for the past 14 years, playing on classic 1210s, Pioneer desktop units and Denon rack mount CDs), I'm now looking at the possibility of going 'digital' (hence looking at vdj and a controller)
The BCD is OK, but if I decide to go MP3, it probably wont make the grade and I will be looking for something more robust / quality.
(PS. the thing that bugs me most about the BCD at the moment is the layout - the right hand deck is OK as its a 'conventional' layout. However, the left hand deck is 'backwards' in that the pitch etc is to the left of the jog wheel !!)
Posted Thu 28 Dec 06 @ 9:31 pm