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Loipon na baloume ta pragmata sti thesi tous.

1on. H konsola vms4 den vgike stin agora gia na stiriksei software pou ypostirizoun 4 decks. Vgike gia na kalypsei tis anagkes enos dj na exei ena midi controller me 2 decks, kai na mporei na syndesei as poume 2 cdieres sta allla 2 kanalia kai na mporei na exei mia tetoia eueliksia. Autos allwste itan kai o logos pou ta kanalia mporoun na allaksoun apo midi se analogue. An to vasiko skeptiko itan na paiksei me 4 decks me kapoio software tha vgazane ena controller me 4 decks, midi kai telos. Yparxei tetoios?...den nomiw. Giati? kai apantaw.

2on. 4Decks? Posoi einai autoi pou stin pragmatikotita ta xrisimopoioun? 1 stous 10..pollous evala. Kai autoi pou ta xrisimopoioun, ousiastika ta exoun fortwsei me kapoia samples. Min mou peite oti kanete toso grigores allages twn 20 sec pou prepei na fortwnetai to ena deck pisw apo to allo...
Kai epeidi polys logos exei ginei me ta 4 decks, enimerwnw olous tous xristes tou VDJ oti ginetai kai paraginetai. An thes dld me to stanio na exeis 4 decks, anoigeis to VirtualDJ 2 fores se multiinstance (apo to config to allazeis auto), dineis eksodo sto ena VirtualDJ apo mia karta ixou kai eksodo sto allo apo mia alli karta ixou. Epilegeis 2 skins mikris analysis pou na mporeis na ta xwreseis se mia othoni (an kai nomizw oti yparxei etoimo) ..kai kapws etsi teleiwnei to paramythi kai i progkippisa vriksei to palikari tis.

To eksantlisame nomizw to thema me ta 4 decks.

Allwste opws eipe kai o Dimitris sigoura tha ypostirixthei kai apo alla softwares, opote opoios thelei dialegei.

3on Egw pantws an imoun i American Audio tha ithela na synergastw me mia etaireia pou to software tis to prosarmozei stis apaitiseis twn kairwn (vlepe video), me mia etairia pou ypostirizei OLOUS tous controllers natively (px Traktor den vlepei HID syskeues opws DMC2 Numark) me mia etaireia pou ikanopoiei ta perissotera logika aitimata twn users mesa apo requests sta forum kai den tous geiwnei kanwntas tou kefaliou tis, kai me mia etaireia pou tha mou ferei kai pelates apo xwres pou grafoun sta latinika (Rwsia, Ellada, Kina, Aravikes xwres ..ypostiriksi unicode)

Na simeiwsw edw oti imoun ki egw Traktorakia gia kammia dyetia, empaina sxedon kathimerina sto forum tis NI, kai auto pou diapistwsa itan oti monoi tous paleuan oi xristes na ftiaksoun mappers gia tis syskeues, episima den evgaine kanena na tous voithisei, sta vatheia kai opoios iksere mpanio kolympage. Mappers pou den anavane lampakia, mappers pou den eixan amfidromi anafora (patages koumpi me to mouse kai den allaze to status ston controller klp). Otan egian melos tou VirtualDj aisthanthika oti edw akougomai (oxi mono egw alla kai oloi),kai an an doume pou itan to VirtualDJ prin apo 2-3 xronia kai pou einai twra... deite episis tin ekseliksi pou eixan ta alla softwares kai tha katalavete.

Min mpoume pali sti syzitisi peri statherotitas kai poiotitas, giati mporw na sas pw me pasi eilikrinia kai vevaiotita oti xrisimopoiw to VirtualdJ live ta teleutaia 3-4 xronia, allote syxna kai allote oxi, xwris kanena tetoio provlima. Einai thema stisimatos, xrisis kai pollwn pragmatwn. Bugs exoun ola ta softwares, aloimono na min eixan. Ysterei ligo sto MAc, alla min ksexnate oti einai poly fresko vima, einai sigouro oti i Mac version se ligo kairo tha einai eksisou staheri opws sto PC.


Teleiwnw kai anaferomai pali stin vms4. Gia na katalavete oti ousiastika gia ta 4 decks pou leei oti ypostirizei i AA, karfaki de mou kaigetai. Tin perimenw pws kai pws. Kserete giati ?. Giati epitelous tha exw enan controller pou ektos apo EQ sta decks tha exei kai EQ-Crossfaders !!!!
xaxa..Ta round faders pou exei as poume sti mesi tha ta ftiaksw na einai EQ-crossfaders, kapoia alla FX-sliders gia parametrs FX kai paei legwntas. Exeis tosa koumpia na kaneis tosa pragmata, sta 4 decks tha koliseis?

Auta.
 
h konsola dn ftiaxthke me logikh 2 deck k mono. ayto einai aytonohto.

epishs, dn 8a htan logiko n ftiaxoun, opws les, ena MIDI controller me 4 "kanalia" giati 8a exane se eyelixia, k fysika 8a emene pisw ap ton antagwnismo. exallou an h8ela enan MIDI "mikth" 8a epairna ena xsession pro k telos...

twra kata poso mporoun kapoioi n paixoune me 4 decks einai allh ypo8esh... to 8ema einai omws pws ta 3 decks einai para poly xrhsima gia n yparxei xwros g loops/acapellas/samples klp.
h american audio profanws k 8elei n xtyphsei ta (poly) pio akriva xone ta opoia yposthrizoun 4 decks. eite eikonika eite analogika. exallou ayth einai h moda die8nws... ti na kanoume??? dn lew pws einai aparaithta ta 4 decks, oute pws egw 8a ta xrhsimopoiousa, alla kalws h kakws, ayto poulaei!!!

ayto p prospa8w n pw einai pws dn prepei n koitame emas, ka8ws eimaste ena poly mikro meros ths die8nous agoras.

oi neoi DJs 8eloun 4 decks, 8eloun eyelixia, 8eloun n exoun oles tis dynates kainotomies k dieykolynseis pou sou dinei ena software.
einai kapoios ap aytous Richie Hawtin h Dubfire....?? amfivallw..... opws eipe k o DJDad, zhthma an o enas stous deka xerei n xrhsimopoiei 4 decks.

WSTOSO, AYTO POULAEI...
 
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dhthen orghsmeno, alla sthn ousia apelpismeno!

kai merika akoma nea:

Latest info from ADJ Europe:

Will the vms4 be ASIO compatible? Yes
If so will it come with its own ASIO drivers or use ASIO4All? Own
Will the vms4 support timecodes? Possible, but not with native traktor scratch or serato
Will the vms4 have Mac drivers also? yes
The price is still £399 with VDJ LE? yes
Release Date is July 2010? yes
Power supply will be sold separately? Price? included
Carry case will be sold separately? Price? Separately, price not yet set, because it’s not ready yet
What is the earliest date dealers will have access to demo models? Around july/august 2010
 
 
Hdi ypostirizetai i vms4 sto virtualdj 6.1
 
nice, oi mhnes omws pernane kai h isotimia dolariou euro exei erthei anapoda

dyskola ta vlepw ta pragmata...
 
... kai apo mia matia pou eriksa ston mapper, oute logos vevaia gia 4 decks. Ksexaste ta.
 
 
Den einai kako...
pou to anakalypses ?
 
egw tous to ftiaksa .xaxaxax plaka kanw ..egine post sto general forum. An to sygkrinw me kati alla pou vazoun se alles LE, pragmati einai mia xara.
 
pas mal, pas mal... ante mono mia kalh timh mas leipei na kleisoume...

mexri ta 450E einai vato to thema, poly fovamai omws oti tha skasei panw apo 500 bikikinia...
 
Parousiash apo thn DJ Freshfluke (tromara ths, eipame germanida alla ta agglika ths exoun acent dyslektikou, auth vrhkane?) se extended version.

Prosexte to video sto 10:15 pou deixnei tis diaforetikes leitourgies twn platerns, apla spernei!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZx_Xx45NlQ

Kykloforei epishs mia fhmh oti tha exei dyo firmware diathesima ena gia Post_EQ (16bit) kai ena gia Pre_EQ (sta 24bit!)

Nomizw oti prospathoun na ikanopoihsoun para polles epithimies xrhstwn kai eilikrina den xerw an tha ta kataferoun ola! Ena einai to shgouro h konsola me olo to support ths AA apo pisw deixnei na einai kai na exelisete ws ena apo ta pleon dj friendly aio controllers, titlos varys alla poly timitikos pou pragmatika elpizw na kataferei na krathsei!
 
Innersense wrote :
Parousiash apo thn DJ Freshfluke (tromara ths, eipame germanida alla ta agglika ths exoun acent dyslektikou, auth vrhkane?) se extended version.


Dj ...Barbie, min spaseis kanena nyxi...
To exo ksana postarei to video.
 
Loipon apo arxes Augoustou h VSM4 arxise na kataftanei sta xeria twn protwn anypomonwn idiokthtwn oi opoioi... exoun meinei pagwmenoi... me thn afixh ths kai tis prwtes empeiries xrhshs.

katarxhn ola ta komatia exoun off center platerns ("jog wheels are off centre") kai arketoi prospathoun na to katapioun kai na proxwrisoun...

arketa ta provlhmata me tous asio drivers kai o controller ap oti grafoun den deinei standar poiothta hxou alla exei kapoies diakymanseis...

(*fysika den mporw na xexwrisw poia apo ta parapona twn pelatwn ofeilontai kathara sthn vsm4, poia stou drivers kai poia se... agnoia twn idiwn na sthsoun swsta to systhma tous, osoi exoume asxolhthei xeroume oti einai epiponh ypothesh to swsto setup, emena gia paradeigma mou peire 5 meres gia to prwto laptop kai ena apogeuma gia to deutero).

genika ta forum ths vsm4 (kai sto site ths AA alla kai ta antistoixa tou VDJ edw) apekthsan megalh kinhikothta meta apo toso kairo anamonhs kai oi anthropoi ths american audio trexoun kai den ftanoun na lysoun ta provlhmata kai na dwsoun exighseis.

kata th gnwmh mou twra tha deixei thn axia ths san etairia, analoga me to support pou tha prosferei stous pelates ths...

ps: link gia to manual ths vsm4 vms4dj.com/Files/vms4.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.vms4dj.com/Files/vms4.pdf
 
 
Tin patisa ..nai ...
Mexri kai mia mera prin vgei i prwti beta, oloi apo to Team tis Atomix elegan katigorimatika pws ta 4 decks den einai sta amesa sxedia tis etairias. Vlepeis yparxei auti i politiki na min diarreoun ta xaraktiristika tis neas version prin vgei kanonika se release.
Kai an den itan i ekthesi (Atlantic Dj Expro) den tha eixe diarreusei tipota kai ta 4 decks akoma tha itan stin wish list orismenwn. Twra ta thewroun dedomena.

H vms4 einai gia mena poly kali konsola alla fainetai oti exei paidikes astheneies. Tha kseperastoun omws. Yparxei idi topic sto Hardware Forum pou asxolountai me ta problimatakia kai ta tweakings ston mapper. Eimai sigouros oti syntoma tha einai mia poly kali epilogi gia agora.
 
Se ayto to simeio thelo na kataripso enan mytho...!!!
Thelo loipon an mou peite to eksis aplo pragma....

-APO POY KAI OS POY- oi kainourgioi controllers san tin vms4, tin NI S4, kai tin kainourgia epeisis tis Denon (6000) theorountai... "4 decks controllers" ? Mipos ego den blepo kala ? giati ayto pou blepo se oles aytes einai :
2 Jogs
2 Play / Pause / cue kai merika button.
kai genikos mia diataksi me dyo decks kai enan mikti sti mesi.
Tora an aytos o miktis (eite analogikos eite midi) exei 4 ins... e kai ? panta oi dj miktes eixan 4in h dyo, kai kapoioi 3....
Ton tetrakanalo ... controller pou ton eidate ?
Otan deite controller me 4 jogs tote peite mou oti einai 4decks symbatos....

Etsi min mas pianoune kai koroida, oi diafimistes kai to marketing ..
 
k egw symfwnw s ayto DJDad. osa provlhmata k an exei, pistevw 8a kataferoun n th strwsoun. k eidika me thn timh pou exei, einai se poly pleonektikoterh 8esh h american audio apenanti ston antagwnismo!
apla as perimenoume ligo kairo mexri n dior8wsoun oti strava exei.

@apopsis: sigoura dn einai apolyta "4 decks" controllers, wstoso einai poly pio aparaithto n exeis (k n vlepeis) 4 faders ap oti 4 jogs. exallou m ena aplo shift button to mapping kalyptei k allo deck. skepsou malista poso parapanw kostos (alla k mege8os) 8a eixan 4 plhrh decks, me ta jogs tous k ta koumpakia tous!
 
leonidassr wrote :
wstoso einai poly pio aparaithto n exeis (k n vlepeis) 4 faders ap oti 4 jogs. exallou m ena aplo shift button to mapping kalyptei k allo deck. skepsou malista poso parapanw kostos (alla k mege8os) 8a eixan 4 plhrh decks, me ta jogs tous k ta koumpakia tous!

Edo diafonw entelos, an einai na antheteis se button ta alla 2 decks i na patas shift kathe fora tote einai smplers den einai decks, san tou virtualdj pou ta bazeis sta F keys..
Mikti tetrakanalo... kai me 50 eyro...

Thelw kai tin gnomi twn allwn edo an yparxei "apati" h oxi..
 
kaneis pote den mporese na kontrolarei 4 jogs, 4 vinyls me 2 xeria. Opote h logikh twn 4 jogs tha makrune kialo thn suskeuh xwris na prosferei kai kapoia shmantikh leitourgikothta. Wstoso 4 faders pane kai sto ena xeri xwris problhma.

Egw allo blepw twra pou bghke. Einai caravan kai xanei se polla praktika shmeia. To megethos kai to baros ths periorizoun to mobility kai einai arketa mikrh gia monimo install se magazi.

San thn gorgona ena pragma. Oute na thn thganiseis oute na thn p!d!3eis.
Tha thn hthela h akoma megaluterh h akoma mikroterh to megethos ths me xalaei
 
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