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ciocePRO InfinityMember since 2004
 

Posted Sun 25 Jan 09 @ 4:26 pm
hope native support comes soon. but hope this works well. just stumbled onto a big club in my area for saturday nights. and last night pushed thier serato out the way to rock vdj
 

Posted Sun 25 Jan 09 @ 5:35 pm
 

Posted Mon 26 Jan 09 @ 3:34 am
ciocePRO InfinityMember since 2004
Thanks for info djbeware, mapper is now updated to version 1.2
I hope you tell "LOOP auto" and not "CUE auto", right?

@ JIMMAKOSDJ
Tell me if the MIDI files is ok for you ;)
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 2:18 am
I am so proud of DjBeware - thanks in advance .

Yes Mr Cioce , its ok by me :)

Everything working perfect now.

My kindest regards
Jim
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 6:27 am
Another small issue that we have is the gain control level.

What i mean ???

I mean that the XML file is ok and the controller is moving
nicelly the gain control, but when you move the gain +100
(all the way to the right) , we have so much distortion and
not at all a good sound quality.

Any ideas ???

Could we use a compressor like ,tool ???

Regards
Jim
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 6:57 am
ciocePRO InfinityMember since 2004
This is a feature of Virtual DJ and not related to the mapper, we know Virtual DJ have more and more gain controller respect to a real mixer.

I hope in the future team will add a "gain range".
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 7:06 am
cioce wrote :
Thanks for info djbeware, mapper is now updated to version 1.2
I hope you tell "LOOP auto" and not "CUE auto", right?

@ JIMMAKOSDJ
Tell me if the MIDI files is ok for you ;)


Yes LOOP auto!
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 7:39 am
This is a feature of Virtual DJ and not related to the mapper, we know Virtual DJ have more and more gain controller respect to a real mixer.

I hope in the future team will add a "gain range".

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Yes, i understand, but even you have a controller connected or not
and you move the gain control with you mouse ,still the output sound
quality is not good - it comes out with big distortion and exits the +0 db
levels .

Do you thing a compressor audio tool could do something ?

Regards
Jim
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 11:59 am
cioce wrote :
Thanks for info djbeware, mapper is now updated to version 1.2
I hope you tell "LOOP auto" and not "CUE auto", right?

@ JIMMAKOSDJ
Tell me if the MIDI files is ok for you ;)

Yes LOOP auto!


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All the buttons are really good now - perfect .All we need now are the lights/LEDS .

Good job.

Jim
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 11:59 am
JIMMAKOSDJ wrote :
This is a feature of Virtual DJ and not related to the mapper, we know Virtual DJ have more and more gain controller respect to a real mixer.

I hope in the future team will add a "gain range".

----------------------------------

Yes, i understand, but even you have a controller connected or not
and you move the gain control with you mouse ,still the output sound
quality is not good - it comes out with big distortion and exits the +0 db
levels .

Do you thing a compressor audio tool could do something ?

Regards
Jim


What we can do is scale the GAIN knob so its more efficient, because if when you turn it up its distorted anyway then I believe in the mapper we can eliminate the higher values, anyways I will test later tonight and let you guys know what I have figured out. I am still not happey with the scratching, there is a weird delay, I want to work on that to.
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 1:31 pm
Try and tell me the results -- specially with the gain... about the scratch ,we can figure a way.
But i believe gain is important .

Regards
Jim
 

Posted Tue 27 Jan 09 @ 2:11 pm
Its not important to make the GAIN more efficient.The problem is elsewhere.

When you move the knob full to the right, the sound goes over the limits.
Its over-clipping +6 dB at least.

We need a software that will run in the background before we load VDJ
that will make a re-routing of the soundcard ,so when this software receives
an over-clipped sound it will reduce it to normal sound levels. A software
like limiter or compressor that will use the same soundcard for in and out.

I have tested some compressor/limiter VST (.DLL) and it really works fantastic
but there is a problem.This effect/utility can be used per DECK ... not at the same
time for two decks (this VST was loaded from vdJ).

So there must be something to tweak either inside the registry settings
about the vdj which has to do with the sound or another external software
like an equalizer with limiter/compressor addon feature.... OR A NEWER VERSION
OF VIRTUAL WITH MOST PROBLEMS SOLVED (hoping there will be one ...soon).

Regards
Jim
 

Posted Wed 28 Jan 09 @ 2:50 am
Big Thx to all of you for getting this to work.

The entire Thread seems rather misleading and confusing.

I did get mine working but not as these posts make out it should be done.

I had installed the midi translator with it running in the background with the correct file and the midi.xml in VDJ.

Tried a variety of settings mentioned in a few of the posts but no matter what, the controller didn't want to control anything until i closed the midi translator running in the background and everything apart from key lights , volume lights and the gain amount been distorted the rest has been working 100%..

So that i don't confuse those that might be trying to get the system to work for themselves i have included my settings.

This is a successful setup on a vista 64 bit system and win XP


settings > sound setup >
Inputs = None
Outputs = Single Output
Sound card =Asio4All > all other sound cards in asio disabled and only the vci 300 enabled have not changed default settings on it either

Settings > Remote Control >
Midi > and load the most current vci300.xml file posted in this thread


On the win Xp system i didnt bother installing the midi translator app and file just to see if it is STILL a requirement
and for me looks like it is NOT NEEDED

Went straight to the sound settings and copied them as above
Only difference was in the asio4all it had displayed the vci300 as a plain usb device which i enabled and disabled the rest



The midi translator requirement only confused things for me and didn't get it working perhaps in some different setups it might be a requirement.



Once again thank you for all the time and effort you guys put into finding a solution.


edit : adding to the same post to avoid further confusion.

I have also added 2 TCV on the same setup and utilizing the VCI 300 as an Inbetween
with the following settings

Input = time coded left and right
Output = External Mixer 2 line image
Soundcard = Asio4All VCI 300 enabled and in this case my 2 UCA202 sound cards (p.s I don't recommend those 2 sound cards waiting on Maya)
input channels and output channels depended on setup

this setup gives you another couple extra options and utility but keep in mind can be a little confusing.
 

Posted Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 12:57 am
Midi translator is not needed my friend. We are far better than that :)
All we waiting now is Vestax with a native support .DLL patch file from one side
and Atomix from the other side with a newer version of VDJ to have vci-300
supported as a device.

Regards
Jim
 

Posted Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 2:21 am
djranesPRO InfinityMember since 2007
And a legit PRO license to make a full use of the features I think...
 

Posted Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 6:23 am
Even with a licence or without a linence i have opened "the eyes" to everybody in here
and now we finally made a proper XML for vci-300 .... anything you have to say about that ?

Regards
Jim
 

Posted Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 6:31 am
djranesPRO InfinityMember since 2007
Well thanks a lot for opening somebody's eyes, those ended up not just helping you but to others as well. But still for me a legit license is still a prerequisite to enjoy the next native support of that controller, thus, helping also the creators to improve more on the software's features and hardware supports.
 

Posted Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 6:43 am
cstollPRO InfinityMember since 2004
JIMMAKOSDJ wrote :
Even with a licence or without a linence i have opened "the eyes" to everybody in here


Well not to split hairs here ... but opening eyes ? ... all that has happened here is you have collaborated with a few others and done EXACTLY what I told your friend in this thread -- http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/102992/Hardware_Technical_Support/ALL_POSSIBLE_MIDI_COMANDS__.html

Quote :
So, in the learn mode of the General MIDI it opens up to a dialog and it has all the commands/actions that are assignable.
There is the first place you should have looked.


So though I am glad you (and others) have a more appealing XML file for your VCI-300 -- the problem from the beginning has been the continental divide in languages. Your words (and giannoulopoulos) imply that you have done something 'NEW' and 'NEVER SEEN' before in VirtualDJ, when in reality its the way things are done all the time.

Again, glad you have a working mapping for the controller ... hope you and giannoulopoulos ... now buy a license and enjoy VirtualDJ a little bit more...
 

Posted Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 7:21 am
Thank you for all that.First my original XML was made absolutelly by me and not by my
relative Mr Giannoulopoulos (who is a licenced user - PRO). Then after i posted my
first XML ,other people showed interest (such as mr DjBeware) and made a nice working
XML for this controller.

But before all that i havent seen any effort at all at any side of this forum concerning
a good XML about this controller.Thats why i start making myself a working one from scratch/zero.

I know all the functionalities of VDJ and i am so happy about this program, and of course i will
buy it too.

But until then, its better to solve as much problems we can :)

My kindest regards to you and your team - hoping to a newer version nearby...

Jim
 

Posted Fri 30 Jan 09 @ 8:28 am
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