bagpuss
I've just been looking at the difference between an ordinary DVD and HD/Blu Ray DVD, the difference is quite amazing. Are any of you guys using HD Music videos yet? Without being able to compare, I wonder what difference this would make in terms of system requirements? and also the cost of such a video service when it becomes available.
As someone who's not exactly in love with Music video mixing and the fact that the DVD will soon become a standard of the past, I do feel glad I've not already made an investment only to have to re-invest in the same product again (only in HD) in order to have the best possible video quality on those huge screens.
Your thoughts...
As someone who's not exactly in love with Music video mixing and the fact that the DVD will soon become a standard of the past, I do feel glad I've not already made an investment only to have to re-invest in the same product again (only in HD) in order to have the best possible video quality on those huge screens.
Your thoughts...
Posted Thu 05 Jul 07 @ 7:45 pm
CanSpoilU
With everything involved in getting TVs in a club (massive amounts of video splitting and switching).... I don't think HD will ever become mainstream in a club environment for quite some time. Its just so much easier for a club to run composite video or coaxial over running something HD (like HDMI).
Posted Thu 05 Jul 07 @ 7:48 pm
Andrew87
You won't be able to mix HD video in realtime, sorry. Will have to wait for dedicated hardware BD-Ray decks to come out, will be very pricy I would imagine!
Posted Thu 05 Jul 07 @ 7:48 pm
bagpuss
I read somewhere that it's possible to convert a HD Video into a file the size of a VOB whilst still retaining the superior quality of HD, near lossless like MP3.
Posted Thu 05 Jul 07 @ 7:54 pm
Andrew87
An HD video of resolution 1920x1080 at 30 frames per second would take a lot of bandwidth. The minimum bitrate you could encode such a video at to maintain good quality would be more than the highest you can encode a compliant MPEG2 (vob) file. If the resolution was 1280x720 or the video scaled down a little, perhaps 960x540 at 24 frames per second (the standard which films are shot at before Telecine is applied) then you can get more reasonable filesizes with a good quality encoder such as x264, however the encoding time would be painfully slow. This sort of file would however be equivalent to vob filesizes, but is not true HD and a quarter the resolution as the originally stated source.
Posted Thu 05 Jul 07 @ 8:03 pm
GaryBr
Andrew87 wrote :
An HD video of resolution 1920x1080 at 30 frames per second would take a lot of bandwidth. The minimum bitrate you could encode such a video at to maintain good quality would be more than the highest you can encode a compliant MPEG2 (vob) file. If the resolution was 1280x720 or the video scaled down a little, perhaps 960x540 at 24 frames per second (the standard which films are shot at before Telecine is applied) then you can get more reasonable filesizes with a good quality encoder such as x264, however the encoding time would be painfully slow. This sort of file would however be equivalent to vob filesizes, but is not true HD and a quarter the resolution as the originally stated source.
I was going to say exactly the same thing!
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 4:55 am
Andrew87
Great minds think alike eh ;-)
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 4:49 pm
bagpuss
It just proves that nothing is permenant, as technology is ever improving and peoples expectations ever increasing, the format we use is always subject to change. It just seems a shame when collecting and organising music is an on-going process as it is, and changing the format of your whole collection is a radical thing to do.
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 6:04 pm
A Man and His Music
This is a non issue, at least for me. I work on the 95% rule. I only try to please 95% of my crowd. I don't give a shit about the other 5%. They will not like me, no matter what I do. I can assure you, less then 1% of my guess have HD or Blu Ray technology in their homes, or even know about it. I will not worry about it until HD and Blu Ray players start to out pace DVD player sales. If some one actually came to me, and asked me why me videos were not in HD, I would tell him where he could stick his Blu Ray, and offer to help him.
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 8:35 pm
Andrew87
Such a scenario wouldn't be happening for at least a couple of years, if ever. The scaling chips on most modern lcds are quite good anyway. As long as your videos don't have any artifacts in them and aren't terribly low resolution (i.e. youtube) people shouldn't care, they're there to socialise and dance anyway.
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 8:53 pm
bagpuss
Yea it's not as if anyone actually looks at the screens anyway..
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 9:01 pm
Andrew87
I didn't say it as if noone cares about the video. I was just stating that noone really is going to make comments about the quality as long as it's sufficient, i.e. High Definition video isn't going to improve the experience anymore over one of good quality. On the other hand, playing youtube quality videos will actually detract from the experience.
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 9:04 pm
A Man and His Music
Bagpuss wrote :
Yea it's not as if anyone actually looks at the screens anyway..
Exactly, videos are just another visual effect. However, you will have a few that just stand there and watch videos all night. Remember, people come to clubs for different reasons. Some come just to watch. The after work happy hours, these people watch a lot of the videos.
Posted Fri 06 Jul 07 @ 9:09 pm