salus
Hmm, here's a new one.
I've just installed a brand new system, including a fresh installation of Windows XP and Virtual DJ 4.3. Everything goes okay until I attempt to analyse the song database. Within 2 minutes, the whole computer powers itself off, needing the reset button to be pushed to restart it.
I changed the ram, with no improvement. I then changed the power supply, to no avail. I then changed both the sound card and the video card, also with no change. I double checked the new motherboard BIOS settings, to see if anything was awry there, but all seemed well. I then uninstalled and reinstalled the VDJ program with no improvement.
What is strange is that VDJ operates more or less fine until songs are analysed. Other Windows programs also work fine. This to me indicates the new motherboard itself is ok and that the CPU voltage is within tolerance.
System specs are as follows:
Intel P4 3.0 CPU
320 GB hard drive
1GB ram
High quality sound & video cards
Asus 945 chipset motherboard
Ideas anyone? (Apart from the obvious one, of carefully placing the new system into the outside trash can.)
Cheers
Barry
I've just installed a brand new system, including a fresh installation of Windows XP and Virtual DJ 4.3. Everything goes okay until I attempt to analyse the song database. Within 2 minutes, the whole computer powers itself off, needing the reset button to be pushed to restart it.
I changed the ram, with no improvement. I then changed the power supply, to no avail. I then changed both the sound card and the video card, also with no change. I double checked the new motherboard BIOS settings, to see if anything was awry there, but all seemed well. I then uninstalled and reinstalled the VDJ program with no improvement.
What is strange is that VDJ operates more or less fine until songs are analysed. Other Windows programs also work fine. This to me indicates the new motherboard itself is ok and that the CPU voltage is within tolerance.
System specs are as follows:
Intel P4 3.0 CPU
320 GB hard drive
1GB ram
High quality sound & video cards
Asus 945 chipset motherboard
Ideas anyone? (Apart from the obvious one, of carefully placing the new system into the outside trash can.)
Cheers
Barry
Posted Thu 19 Apr 07 @ 9:05 am
Pionara
This used to happen to me. If i remember correctly it was an overheating issue or something.
Try taking a side panel off of your case and aiming a desk fan directly at the motherboard and power the system back up after you've turned the fan on.
Check your bios too for all temperature settings. Try analysing again and see what happens.
Might work, might not. Hopefully will!
Having said that, can't you just copy your VDJ database to a disc and install it onto your new computer? That way you won't need to analyse everything again.
P
Try taking a side panel off of your case and aiming a desk fan directly at the motherboard and power the system back up after you've turned the fan on.
Check your bios too for all temperature settings. Try analysing again and see what happens.
Might work, might not. Hopefully will!
Having said that, can't you just copy your VDJ database to a disc and install it onto your new computer? That way you won't need to analyse everything again.
P
Posted Thu 19 Apr 07 @ 12:13 pm
salus
Thanks for this, Pionara.
I thought also it was a heat related issue until I came out this morning, turned the system on and viola - a shutdown occurred within 90 seconds (on quite a cold computer).
My wife is a computer hardware engineer and she's also baffled by all of this.
I might add that upon further hours of testing, I know now that the computer shuts itself down within a minute or two after commencing to analyse songs, but when running VDJ normally, ie playing songs, it runs for just an hour or so before shutting down. Obviously some sort of major conflict exists somewhere, but where.....? Yet running normal Windows programs on the system for hours on end present no glitches at all.
The computer consultant I usually pester about insurmountables such as this has advised me to totally uninstall the VDJ program (again) then attempt a complete reinstallation of it directly from this website, as opposed to using a USB flash memory device. So I guess this is my next step.
The amusing thing about all of this is that on my other computer, I had a freezing problem with VDJ. So I purchased an entirely new system from the motherboard up, in an attempt to remedy this. But now the problem is not a simple freeze, but entire system shutdown! lol
The Gods must be laughing....
I thought also it was a heat related issue until I came out this morning, turned the system on and viola - a shutdown occurred within 90 seconds (on quite a cold computer).
My wife is a computer hardware engineer and she's also baffled by all of this.
I might add that upon further hours of testing, I know now that the computer shuts itself down within a minute or two after commencing to analyse songs, but when running VDJ normally, ie playing songs, it runs for just an hour or so before shutting down. Obviously some sort of major conflict exists somewhere, but where.....? Yet running normal Windows programs on the system for hours on end present no glitches at all.
The computer consultant I usually pester about insurmountables such as this has advised me to totally uninstall the VDJ program (again) then attempt a complete reinstallation of it directly from this website, as opposed to using a USB flash memory device. So I guess this is my next step.
The amusing thing about all of this is that on my other computer, I had a freezing problem with VDJ. So I purchased an entirely new system from the motherboard up, in an attempt to remedy this. But now the problem is not a simple freeze, but entire system shutdown! lol
The Gods must be laughing....
Posted Thu 19 Apr 07 @ 12:35 pm
discobrian24
I too would reinstall VDJ. Uninstall VDJ and run this to clean the registry http://www.virtualdj.com/addons/download.html?addon_id=2936, then reinstall.
Posted Fri 20 Apr 07 @ 12:23 am
Pionara
I've never used the registry cleaner, so this may just be a mad amount of nothing to confuse you a bit...remember and empty your prefetch folder too, and fully remove all occurences of anything VDJ related.
Best way to do this is to do a search on your whole computer for things like:
Virtual DJ
VirtualDJ
VDJ
Virtual
DJ
You know, stuff like that. If you do find any, get rid of them before you reinstall.
Again though, can't you just burn your .xml to a disc and stick it on your new machine?
P
Best way to do this is to do a search on your whole computer for things like:
Virtual DJ
VirtualDJ
VDJ
Virtual
DJ
You know, stuff like that. If you do find any, get rid of them before you reinstall.
Again though, can't you just burn your .xml to a disc and stick it on your new machine?
P
Posted Fri 20 Apr 07 @ 1:56 am
You can also try the free CCleaner to fix the registery error and conflict
Posted Fri 20 Apr 07 @ 3:28 am
SpeedDemond29
sounds like .... Ghosts of the Machines lol
Posted Fri 20 Apr 07 @ 7:37 am
discobrian24
Just out of curiosity, how many files are you trying to analyze at a time?? Try to make a folder with like 20 and see what happens. Have you checked your power settings and your screensaver as I know VDJ doesnt take to well to hibernation and screensavers.
Posted Fri 20 Apr 07 @ 10:06 am
salus
Hey guys - thanks so much for all the advice.
Over the next day or two I'll be doing some extensive testing, taking all of your advice.
I'll report back when more is known. I'll beat this thing, I reckon. I just need the right key to unlock the creaky door....
Speak to you soon - bye for now.
Best wishes
Barry
Over the next day or two I'll be doing some extensive testing, taking all of your advice.
I'll report back when more is known. I'll beat this thing, I reckon. I just need the right key to unlock the creaky door....
Speak to you soon - bye for now.
Best wishes
Barry
Posted Fri 20 Apr 07 @ 3:08 pm
salus
STOP PRESS
Last night I had an important wedding gig to dj, so I took a gamble. That is, rather than using my brand new, high tech dedicated DJ computer system, I unplugged my much older, day-to-day home computer that I'm using to write this note to you on. Yes, the one that's choked with a thousand different assorted files and outlook express messages, etc. And you know what - it worked virtually PERFECTLY for the entire night! I left the gig smiling like a Cheshire cat, pleased with how the evening had gone.
The only time it did in fact freeze was NOT Virtual DJ's fault. At one stage I noticed a song file loaded onto one of the decks hadn't loaded correctly. I assumed it was a corrupt file and knew it must be quickly replaced it with a working one. Just at that moment though, the groom's father approached me with his daughter in tow, jabbering on about what upcoming songs they wanted to be played. I became distracted trying to keep them happy so before I knew it, Virtual DJ had commenced trying to play the corrupt song file, leading to a shutdown of the program. This was my fault, not VDJ.
With respect to my other dedicated, high end DJ computer, I'll be working on it over this coming week, attempting to find out why it won't work properly with VDJ.
For those interested, here are the specs of the two computers mentioned:
Home computer that worked perfectly with VDJ: Asus 915 chipset motherboard, 512 mb DDR2 600 spec ram; average quality sound and video cards, 120gb hard drive, clogged with thousands of assorted personal files & email messages collected over the years. Had to use an external hard drive connected to it to access all the song files needed for the DJ job.
High end computer that doesn't work well with VDJ: Asus 945 chipset motherboard; 1gb of DDR2 800 spec ram (high speed), high quality sound and video cards, 320gb hard drive, very few extraneous files contained on it except for the music files and VDJ program.
Last night I had an important wedding gig to dj, so I took a gamble. That is, rather than using my brand new, high tech dedicated DJ computer system, I unplugged my much older, day-to-day home computer that I'm using to write this note to you on. Yes, the one that's choked with a thousand different assorted files and outlook express messages, etc. And you know what - it worked virtually PERFECTLY for the entire night! I left the gig smiling like a Cheshire cat, pleased with how the evening had gone.
The only time it did in fact freeze was NOT Virtual DJ's fault. At one stage I noticed a song file loaded onto one of the decks hadn't loaded correctly. I assumed it was a corrupt file and knew it must be quickly replaced it with a working one. Just at that moment though, the groom's father approached me with his daughter in tow, jabbering on about what upcoming songs they wanted to be played. I became distracted trying to keep them happy so before I knew it, Virtual DJ had commenced trying to play the corrupt song file, leading to a shutdown of the program. This was my fault, not VDJ.
With respect to my other dedicated, high end DJ computer, I'll be working on it over this coming week, attempting to find out why it won't work properly with VDJ.
For those interested, here are the specs of the two computers mentioned:
Home computer that worked perfectly with VDJ: Asus 915 chipset motherboard, 512 mb DDR2 600 spec ram; average quality sound and video cards, 120gb hard drive, clogged with thousands of assorted personal files & email messages collected over the years. Had to use an external hard drive connected to it to access all the song files needed for the DJ job.
High end computer that doesn't work well with VDJ: Asus 945 chipset motherboard; 1gb of DDR2 800 spec ram (high speed), high quality sound and video cards, 320gb hard drive, very few extraneous files contained on it except for the music files and VDJ program.
Posted Sun 22 Apr 07 @ 2:11 am
salus
I forgot to say also my home computer runs a 3.2 Mhz Celeron CPU whilst the dedicated DJ computer has a 3.0 Intel P4 CPU, with twice the cache memory of the Celeron.
It's really puzzling why my old system with inferior specs works great with VDJ, whilst the newer, more powerful system has significant problems..... it's akin to a fairy princess going to a beauty contest with a gnarly toad - and at the end of the night, the toad walks out the winner!
It's really puzzling why my old system with inferior specs works great with VDJ, whilst the newer, more powerful system has significant problems..... it's akin to a fairy princess going to a beauty contest with a gnarly toad - and at the end of the night, the toad walks out the winner!
Posted Sun 22 Apr 07 @ 2:32 am
DJ-ALF
Here is what you can try:
Pull out all PCI expansion cards and do a clean OS install. Just leave video card.
Then try VDJ with integrated sound or add your own U use.
Update your Motherboard bios. 945 chipset has some issues on Asus, Foxconn and other manufactures.
Clean your contacts on Ram modules and Expansion cards by rubbing them with the ordinary printer paper (clean one :) ). After that, clean them with alcohol (96%, not medical 75%!).
Lets us know what you did!
Pull out all PCI expansion cards and do a clean OS install. Just leave video card.
Then try VDJ with integrated sound or add your own U use.
Update your Motherboard bios. 945 chipset has some issues on Asus, Foxconn and other manufactures.
Clean your contacts on Ram modules and Expansion cards by rubbing them with the ordinary printer paper (clean one :) ). After that, clean them with alcohol (96%, not medical 75%!).
Lets us know what you did!
Posted Tue 01 May 07 @ 4:11 pm
erniejade
I had the same problem on a sony laptop but not on my IBM laptops. Some motherboards just can not handle when the PC hits 80-90% on its utilization. It just reboots itself.
Posted Tue 01 May 07 @ 8:20 pm