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Topic: NO 2 NAPSTER.. it sucks.

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if you plan to get napster, DON'T!!!
if you think napster is good, it's not.

nothing but the truth from my own experience.


  • napster must be installed inorder to play the music. no napster = ERROR on loading
  • music files are in 'wma' format, not mp3. NO MP3
  • wma tags are not scannable by vdj.
  • there is no way to convert Napster's wma file to mp3.
  • you are not allowed to move songs to another computer. if you do, then prepare to download them all over again.
  • you are not allowed to play songs on another computer. only "streaming"
  • tech support always takes atleast 1 week before they reply. regardless of their 24/48 hrs reply.
  • i hear... once you cancel your subscription, you will not be able to play napster music.
  • you will be fored to cause physical damage to something/someone because of the anger you'll get from using napster.
  • uses too much of the cpu.


DJ Shahar (proud never again napster user)
www.djshahar.com
 

Posted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 4:24 am
Oh boy.

See man u gotta research b4 u jump into something. Can't just imagine what it is then bitch about it after. lol

This would be the same with any drm protected music. Of course u can convert wma to mp3, u can convert almost anything. What u need is:

http://soundtaxi.info

some people use tunebite.

good luck.....always think it through when u get into something.....research research research.


btw napster = the shiznit

peace
 

Posted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 5:17 am
Most of the Legal download sites are like this.
most of us work around this by burning tracks to an audio CD and re-ripping the tracks back onto our systems.
Pain in the ass but it works
 

Posted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 7:23 am
napster must be installed inorder to play the music. no napster = ERROR on loading

You are right, but it doesnt need to be running,you can runi it like once a month to update and thats it if you want

music files are in 'wma' format, not mp3. NO MP3
As are most legal download sites

wma tags are not scannable by vdj.
Yes they are scannable.

there is no way to convert Napster's wma file to mp3.
Yes there is by removing DRM or pay $.99 a song then convert to MP3

you are not allowed to move songs to another computer. if you do, then prepare to download them all over again.
You are right, but you can sync your library on 3 computers

you are not allowed to play songs on another computer. only "streaming"
YES see above

tech support always takes atleast 1 week before they reply. regardless of their 24/48 hrs reply.
Call them during their business hours and they will answer

i hear... once you cancel your subscription, you will not be able to play napster music.
You are correct except for the ones you purchased

you will be fored to cause physical damage to something/someone because of the anger you'll get from using napster.
Maybe

uses too much of the cpu.
Doesn't really use CPU unless you are running Napster while gigging, but why do you really need to.

I have been usin Napster since it became "Legal" and myself I like it alot saves a ton of money.

 

Posted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 10:02 am
yeah most of that was incorrect.......just burn to cd then rip, like marcel said.....i really like napster and i use beatport a little

one of VDJ's advantages over Traktor is it plays and scans wma

i object to drm and the whole licensing baloney cuz it just annoys the honest people and it doesn't stop any illegal activity......
 

Posted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 1:11 pm
discobrian24 wrote :
i hear... once you cancel your subscription, you will not be able to play napster music.
You are correct except for the ones you purchased


THIS is why iTunes is dominant worldwide for LEGAL online downloads and every so called "iTunes killer" service has (or is) falling flat on its face.

Subscription services do NOT work for music as predicted by Steve Jobs. Most people want to OWN their music.

Movie subscriptions are okay though because most people won't watch a movie more than a handful of times, often times less than 2-3.

That is NOT the case with music where someone may listen to a song MANY times over a long peiod of time, often throughout their lifetime.

Note to Apple iTunes competitors:

"Get it? Got it? Good."
 

Posted Sun 11 Mar 07 @ 1:39 pm
yk23PRO InfinityMember since 2006
 

Posted Mon 12 Mar 07 @ 3:57 am
discobrian24 wrote :
napster must be installed inorder to play the music. no napster = ERROR on loading

You are right, but it doesnt need to be running,you can runi it like once a month to update and thats it if you want
  • say what? update? you mean it can expire? mother f...'s!!! i really hate napster now.

    music files are in 'wma' format, not mp3. NO MP3
    As are most legal download sites
  • which is why most of us don't use em.

    wma tags are not scannable by vdj.
    Yes they are scannable.
  • i mean that additional info. "tag info" like for mp3 it's id3. winamp reads the wma tag files, but vdj does not.

    there is no way to convert Napster's wma file to mp3.
    Yes there is by removing DRM or pay $.99 a song then convert to MP3
  • what is DRM, and how do i remove the DRM?
  • pay to convert? fine, i wouldn't mind making a 1 time payment of $100 in order to download mp3's alone. or have a program that will convert the music, and let me be. but there is no such deal.

    you are not allowed to move songs to another computer. if you do, then prepare to download them all over again.
    You are right, but you can sync your library on 3 computers
  • and your point is what?

    you are not allowed to play songs on another computer. only "streaming"
    YES see above
  • and your point is what?

    tech support always takes atleast 1 week before they reply. regardless of their 24/48 hrs reply.
    Call them during their business hours and they will answer
  • is their number listed anywhere, i don't think so.

    i hear... once you cancel your subscription, you will not be able to play napster music.
    You are correct except for the ones you purchased
  • well i'm paying 15$/month aren't i.

    you will be fored to cause physical damage to something/someone because of the anger you'll get from using napster.
    Maybe
  • i speak from experience

    uses too much of the cpu.
    Doesn't really use CPU unless you are running Napster while gigging, but why do you really need to.
  • [*] so that when someone asks for a song i don't have, i can dl, and play on the spot.

    I have been usin Napster since it became "Legal" and myself I like it alot saves a ton of money.



    the only reason i ever got napster is because of the 1. full tag, 2. create artist/album automatically, 3. all the music. 4. vdj integration

    but the problem is that wma is not vdj friendly as mp3.

    right click an mp3 file in vdj anc click on file info. see all of that extra info.
    now right click a napster wma file. see how there is no info at all.
    that's my problem.
     

    Posted Tue 13 Mar 07 @ 1:43 am
    1. Napster must be ran at least once a month to update the DRM on the songs
    2. My point is, you stated you cant use these files on other machines, how many machines do you dj with??? You are allowed to sync on 3 systems.
    3. Their phone number is on the site you open to add songs, I will tell you it is there and I will let you know exactly where it is after tonights gig.
    4. For the $15 a month you get unlimited downloads, but they are protected DRM WMAs, the ones you purchased aren't protected.

    I understand your points and they are valid, I wasn't expecting to get my head chopped off for tryin to help you. Your mind is made up, if you don't want to use it then don't, but I know a lot of happy users including myself and also the 7 bowling centers I supply music to. I am not upset, just simply tryin to help out.
     

    Posted Tue 13 Mar 07 @ 2:05 am
    Napster phone # is under help after opening Napster
    800-839-4210 9A-9P Est. if anyone wanted to know
     

    Posted Tue 13 Mar 07 @ 11:31 pm
    oh, i'm sorry,

    didn't know i seemed offensive to you. no harm intended, not at all.

    :)

    well fortunately, i found a way to "legally" convert the wma to mp3's.

    yey

    looks like i'll be staying with napster after all.

    the most annoying thing about the wma files: it takes a while for winamp to load each song because it 'looks for the rights to play the song', so i can't random browse preview songs as fast.

    and this is a very important tactic in selecting the music to play. let's be honest with each other. no dj can remember all the songs he/she has. but with winamp, you simply search for the genre, load the songs, hit shuffel, position cursor in the middle of the play slider, hit 'x' to play, then press 'b' then mouse primary button to preview next song in the middle. keep pressing 'b' then primary mouse button, until you find the one you want to add to the play list.

    with mp3 files, this tactic goes hell fast, you can browse about 30 songs per minute. if you know the song, then even as high as 180 songs per minute. do you have any idea how helpful this tactic can be when under lots of pressure?
     

    Posted Wed 14 Mar 07 @ 10:18 pm
    Ok, why are you using Winamp??? Just wonderin, No I am not offended or upset just wanted to help you with this issue.
     

    Posted Thu 15 Mar 07 @ 2:54 am
    here is why

    imagine you having 1,000 songs. you never heard these songs. no clue at all. current song will last you about 1 more minute. so, you want to preview random songs. with winamp, you can, it reads and displays the genre, album, and time. hit shuffel and browse preview atleast 15 songs per minute. that's about 150 songs. found what you like? hit alt + 3 copy file dir/name goto vdj, paste, find, load.
    very easily find songs to add to the sidelist/play list.

    DJ Shahar
    www.djshahar.com
     

    Posted Sat 17 Mar 07 @ 4:59 am
    Never thought of that, nice one. Might be somethin to try. Learn somethin new everyday.
     

    Posted Sat 17 Mar 07 @ 10:21 pm


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