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Last night, I select about 40gb worth of vob's for the VDJ program to analyze. I was using the VM5 1280 x 1024 V5 1280 x 1024 Skin.

After hours of crunching, it finished. I closed the program, saw the "Saving Database" box and the program closed nicely. This morning, I reopened the program and all the new BPM and TIME information was gone. So, I tried doing a couple of files, the information regarding BPM and TIME was added to the visible file, closed the program...gone again.

Reverted to the original VDJ skin, repeated the above, file information saved properly. Is this because the skin is BETA and nothing will be saved? Data, cue points, etc?
 

Posted Wed 17 Jan 07 @ 8:01 pm
erxonPRO InfinityMember since 2003
Cap Capello wrote :
Reverted to the original VDJ skin, repeated the above, file information saved properly. Is this because the skin is BETA and nothing will be saved? Data, cue points, etc?


No, GUI cannot affect the program in this way. It's probably a bug with long-time analyze feature, I suggest doing a few Dj sessions and loading (and thus analyzing) as many videos/tracks one by one and mix them. This way it (probably) won't loose any more data, but I think similar problems have been reported few times on these boards, including the missing files in local database search (when they were not moved/renamed/...).

I don't have any information whether or not this has been solved with new updates, but it's disappointing to read that the same (known) issues still reoccur.

Regards.
 

Posted Wed 17 Jan 07 @ 11:40 pm
Also instead of just closing VDJ, make a keyboard shortcut for Save_database. I believe it is Ctrl+S. I have yet to run into the problem you just stated using the shortcut. I did have the problem when I just shut down VDJ.
 

Posted Thu 18 Jan 07 @ 4:42 am
CTL-S it is. Thank you!

Since the issue began, I do about 10 songs, shut down the program, then restart. Too much work to be lost rolling the dice.
 

Posted Thu 18 Jan 07 @ 2:44 pm
Also another thing to do is whenever you do any work and have a "Good Database", make sure you back up the Database file somewhere so if per chance somethin does happen you might only lose 1 days work compared to all of it.
 

Posted Thu 18 Jan 07 @ 9:49 pm
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
I have a different kind of disappeaing data.

I am entering info in the comments colunm, and adding songs to virtual folders. I am dilligently saving all of the changes that I am making. However, VDJ seems to be erasing data at will. I save the data (ctrl+s) then resort the playlist. Poof! some of the data is gone! I change it (comments) again and this time it stays. Rescan for BPM... All is good, however the listing in the virtual folder is not updated...

I actually watched one song loose its BPM after being loaded and played, despite the fact that the active BPM was fine.

TP

PS: OK, I restarted the prog. and most of the data is back??? -the virtual folders are still not updated? <<DJTroy begins to stab himself with a dull spoon singing "I am so confused !?!">>
 

Posted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 10:50 pm
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
One time it is there, one time it is not! This must have something to do with the database auto-backup that I downloaded. it is acting like it is alternating between files?
TP
 

Posted Mon 22 Jan 07 @ 10:56 pm
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
When I update info in a virtual folder, it deos not track back to the (master) directory. I have to update the master directory and then (again) drop it into the virtual folder. Then delete the old listing...

The info does not seem to be tracking across virtual folders and directories. updateing the folder updates the master directory, but not the listing in the folder. Incomplete duplicate entries then happen.

-only seems to happen with MP3. Mpq are ok...

TP
 

Posted Tue 23 Jan 07 @ 8:10 pm
cstollPRO InfinityMember since 2004
DJTroy wrote :
One time it is there, one time it is not! This must have something to do with the database auto-backup that I downloaded. it is acting like it is alternating between files?
TP


Are you talking about the tool - runVDJ - that I built? If so, paste the contents of the ini (AutoBckp.ini) here so I can see what you selected as the XMLdb and the settings.
 

Posted Wed 24 Jan 07 @ 4:33 am
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
The pogam is titled "Auto-VDJ.exe" - I cannot find "AutoBckup.ini". Are they the same? I am not using the extenal 'tag editor', I am changing data directly in the prog.

The backup prog seems to be backing up my directory as I expect it to. Making a b/u copy of my database each time I run it and labeling it with a time and date stamp. (run VDJ through Auto-VDJ)

Most of the Data (info) is there if I restart VDJ, however the changes are not included in the Virtual Folder. Changes made within the folder do not seem to be tracking to the main DB. They act like 2 different listings -One with the BPM and data, the other is (40% of the time )empty.

Dunno... Working around it by sorting and re-transfering complete listing to the virtual folder...

TP
 

Posted Wed 24 Jan 07 @ 3:29 pm
cstollPRO InfinityMember since 2004
Well that program is not mine. I wrote the other one that is out there.

Also, always look that the XML file that has the user name in the parenthesis. This is the XML that should be getting updated and read by VDJ.

Just out of curiosity what is your OS? XP?
 

Posted Thu 25 Jan 07 @ 8:36 am
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
XP Home on my notebook, XP Pro on my desktop. This happens on both machines... and only to MP3s.

The Back-up software is:

"Name: Auto-VDJ Database Backup
Author: JamesWjRose - Professional edition user -"

TP.
 

Posted Thu 25 Jan 07 @ 1:46 pm
cstollPRO InfinityMember since 2004
DJTroy wrote :
XP Home on my notebook, XP Pro on my desktop. This happens on both machines... and only to MP3s.

The Back-up software is:

"Name: Auto-VDJ Database Backup
Author: JamesWjRose - Professional edition user -"

TP.


If you have any of the Read or Write ID3Tag crap enabled in the Options Tab - turn it OFF.
Does the problem still exist? Shut down and restart VDJ once you change the settings.
 

Posted Fri 26 Jan 07 @ 5:35 am
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
Bingo. That seems to have been it.
Thanx...
DJTroy
 

Posted Sat 27 Jan 07 @ 3:27 am
cstollPRO InfinityMember since 2004
No problem
 

Posted Sat 27 Jan 07 @ 9:22 am
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
Unfortunately, this solution only provided a 90% fix. (much better than before, easy to work around) It seems to partially correct itself on reload, but comments and BPM are still not (completely) crossing from virtual Folder to dbase, between different virtual folders or from dbase to virtual folders.

DJTroy
 

Posted Wed 07 Feb 07 @ 7:20 pm
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
When I update the dbase, and then add (drag & drop) the updated file to a virtual folder, the original (virtual folder's) listing remains. The updated info appears as a new listing in the virtual folder.

TP
 

Posted Wed 07 Feb 07 @ 9:38 pm
Make a shortcut for Save_database and use this before closing VDJ and you won't run into those problems. Also make sure you make a copy of the good database and save it somewhere incase of a currupt situation. NEVER just shut down VDJ after analyzing you are lookin for troubles.
 

Posted Fri 16 Feb 07 @ 7:43 pm
I have never had a problem with many of the issues with VDJ 4 as with the previous versions... I have never had to backup my database as long as VDJ existed. Now I do. I need an outside program to control LOOPING when I never needed that with previous versions. I am about ready to find something a lot less troublesome and risky to use than Virtual DJ. What a shame - and the program shows so much promise. Maybe I will be back when VDJ 10 is perfect.
 

Posted Thu 15 Mar 07 @ 6:07 pm
DJTroyPRO InfinityMember since 2005
I have had my moments of public embarassment frustrastion too. Lost 2 clients... That is how I ended up on probation... But, in the end the problems were based within my system. I was using slideshow files that were at a huge resolution (Pro 2560 X 2048 ???) and my video output was 600 X 800. This was choking my CPU everytime it tried to use an image. My other problem was that my notebook (because of design) requires a full cleaning every 6 months (i.e.: remove the mother board and disassemble the CPU cooler. Not just 'blow out the ports and vaccuum the keyboard') Beyond that my notebook is dedicated to VDJ. I have a 'ghost' (Norton) of a clean, perfect install (on DVD), and I carry a spare (prepared) HD for FAST swap-out.
I also ALWAYS have a CD standing-by to play. I plan to upgrade this to a video i-pod.

I have started to trust VDJ (again), and my shows are (again) consistant. My clients DO notice. My rates have doubled over the last 6 months. IMHO, this software's power more than makes up for the issues its users face.

When problems start, I do a clean HD and OS install (use the manufacturer's software to thoroughly erase the HD -should take a few hours) & then reinstall my OS, VDJ etc. When I have this up and PERFECT I create a 'ghost' image. This image is used as a rescue disk. I do this procedure whenever my VDJ gets 'wonky'. It helps. About every 6 months... Remember to keep a copy of your database file to update the new install of VDJ.

And remember... Public embarassment builds charactor ;)

DJTroy
 

Posted Thu 22 Mar 07 @ 2:37 pm
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