Niems
That's unlucky :/
I'm very grateful that vdj has never ever packed up on me, well, excluding the times I activated an old version 2.x effect plugin while a songs was playing :D
I'm very grateful that vdj has never ever packed up on me, well, excluding the times I activated an old version 2.x effect plugin while a songs was playing :D
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 12:59 pm
andytaylor125
@ dj cel:
Hi, how can i find out what codec is being used in my system?
Hi, how can i find out what codec is being used in my system?
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 1:12 pm
anewsome
Bagpuss wrote :
hmm very odd, it definitely sounds like a bug although no one else has reported a simular experience, so it's likely it could be a bug triggered by a temporary deficiency in required resources, i.e memory. VDJs memory usage does seem to randomly fluctuate, and when your pushing your system close to the edge in normal circumstances it doesn't take much of a memory fluctuation to push things over the edge. You have 1GB of dedicated ram?
Yes 1GB. I've never observered the RAM getting anywhere close to full utlization on this laptop.
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 5:42 pm
anewsome
jasontgrove wrote :
I have to disagree. I bought the most expensive notebook that I could afford, to try and make this VJing thing, work with VDJ.
My notebook specs are as follows:
Dell E1705 Inspiron
Intel Duo Core 2 2.06ghz
Windows XP Home
2GB RAM (Ram over 512 really doesn't improve video unless you don't use hardware accel.)
internal 2-channel sound card (split outputs for use of 2-mixer channels)
USB video drive
the video card is the Ati Radeon Mobility X1400 256 MB
This machine is only $1300 from Dell and destroys many desktops out there. Benchmark tests prove this!!
I have been using 4.1 for a few nights now and have not had any trouble. In my eyes, and my system setup, I feel that all the problems and issues have been corrected in this release.
Video mixing with VDJ and usage of all available effects and options, with the "best" settings, requires A LOT of resources. I personally would not recommend anyone video mix with this software unless they have atleast a multi-core or multi threading CPU, and that's just for starters! Unfortunately I just have come to believe that most people's problems that they encounter with VDJ stem from a low end cpu or a low end video card.....and no matter how much you try to "tweaK" a low end system, I honestly feel that you won't get great results. VDJ should never be run with systems that only meet the minimal specs, unless the user acknowledges that they will encounter many many problems with stability and speed.
It's unfortunate that video mixing requires such a high end computer setup, but think about it... before this, the only other option was atleast 2 $1,000 minimal Pioneer DVD Pro Players, the video preview lcd's, and so on.
I will however say that there are other programs out there that will run videos, and they don't require such a high end setup, but they also don't do anything more than crossfade and offer few effects, and horrible sound output. VDJ offers a hell of a lot more!
My notebook specs are as follows:
Dell E1705 Inspiron
Intel Duo Core 2 2.06ghz
Windows XP Home
2GB RAM (Ram over 512 really doesn't improve video unless you don't use hardware accel.)
internal 2-channel sound card (split outputs for use of 2-mixer channels)
USB video drive
the video card is the Ati Radeon Mobility X1400 256 MB
This machine is only $1300 from Dell and destroys many desktops out there. Benchmark tests prove this!!
I have been using 4.1 for a few nights now and have not had any trouble. In my eyes, and my system setup, I feel that all the problems and issues have been corrected in this release.
Video mixing with VDJ and usage of all available effects and options, with the "best" settings, requires A LOT of resources. I personally would not recommend anyone video mix with this software unless they have atleast a multi-core or multi threading CPU, and that's just for starters! Unfortunately I just have come to believe that most people's problems that they encounter with VDJ stem from a low end cpu or a low end video card.....and no matter how much you try to "tweaK" a low end system, I honestly feel that you won't get great results. VDJ should never be run with systems that only meet the minimal specs, unless the user acknowledges that they will encounter many many problems with stability and speed.
It's unfortunate that video mixing requires such a high end computer setup, but think about it... before this, the only other option was atleast 2 $1,000 minimal Pioneer DVD Pro Players, the video preview lcd's, and so on.
I will however say that there are other programs out there that will run videos, and they don't require such a high end setup, but they also don't do anything more than crossfade and offer few effects, and horrible sound output. VDJ offers a hell of a lot more!
Jason, I have basically the same laptop, E1505 (15 instead of 17 inch screen), dual core - yes. This laptop is VERY fast and CPU usage rarely goes over 30%. Do you mix videos with TCV?
And Pioneer pro DVJ are a LOT more than $1,000 each. Try about $2,500 at least for the new cheaper ones.
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 5:47 pm
anewsome
andytaylor125 wrote :
@ dj cel:
Hi, how can i find out what codec is being used in my system?
Hi, how can i find out what codec is being used in my system?
Go to config. Codecs tab.
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 5:48 pm
DJ Cyder
I'm just looking at it from the cost standpoint. I can get flawless performace from vdj with a cube pc that is 3 years old thats all and I can build the same pc today for under 600. VOB's mpeg's avi, divix and more that's all plus the added benifit of not having my show depend on a flaky usb drive. It kinda hard not to notice that 90% of problems reported here are laptop releated and not software releated.
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 5:53 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
DJ Cyder wrote :
It kinda hard not to notice that 90% of problems reported here are laptop releated and not software releated.
Good point...;)
But you dont use TC vinyls Cyder..
Maybe there is an issue there..
When doing ALL at the same time : Video mixing, timecode vinyl control... the lots.
And it seems tc vinyl users ("the club djs") use laptops...
So maybe its not the laptop only, but a bit the fact that these djs push the limits..
USB soundcards, laptop GFX cards dont help, but maybe VDJ can be optimized for better performance on these systems...
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 6:09 pm
Bren F
1GB is the minimum for Video (especially with VOBs and TCV running), 2gb would be far more optimal, I'm not saying this is your problem but it's not an optimum amount (1gb).
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 6:14 pm
DJ Cyder
Norway I have 2 1200's sitting here in road cases :) I use them all the time. I also use the new time coded vinyl and have 0 issues. Never had a turntable drop out on me. Using maya 44 and the delta too.
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 6:17 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
DJ Cyder wrote :
Norway I have 2 1200's sitting here in road cases :) I use them all the time. I also use the new time coded vinyl and have 0 issues. Never had a turntable drop out on me. Using maya 44 and the delta too.
Great news....! ;)
Ok, then its hardware related (as Cyder already said.. lol )
So, hhmm... Hoping there will be some system of usb card and mobile GFX that DOES work great.
My Mobility Ati700x pro works great... But havent tested with tc vinyls on, at the same system.
But will try, to stress my system, see if it still works great
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 6:23 pm
jasontgrove
anewsome:
I don't use TCV because there is so much crap in my booth that I decided against it. Plus people at my newest venue for whatever reason hate when DJ's remix music, they'd much rather have a jukebox. Sadly enough... But I can say that I have used things such as midi controllers with VDJ in the past and the only problem I had was that it would stop responding now and then.
I can't imagine TCV causing problems, not sure how many resources it uses. Funny how a lot of little things combined, can use a lot of CPU power. The CPU monitor alone, uses cpu resources.
Our booth machine is a 2.0ghz pentium 4, with just a PCI video card but it's 256MB. 512MB Ram.
With just one video loaded with hardware accel turned on or off, the cpu sits at 100%, without mixing or doing anything other than playing one video. Even with all the settings set as fastest and sound set back to 3.4.
But audio is flawless, so that's what we use it for, as well as some of our intelligent lights.
I don't use TCV because there is so much crap in my booth that I decided against it. Plus people at my newest venue for whatever reason hate when DJ's remix music, they'd much rather have a jukebox. Sadly enough... But I can say that I have used things such as midi controllers with VDJ in the past and the only problem I had was that it would stop responding now and then.
I can't imagine TCV causing problems, not sure how many resources it uses. Funny how a lot of little things combined, can use a lot of CPU power. The CPU monitor alone, uses cpu resources.
Our booth machine is a 2.0ghz pentium 4, with just a PCI video card but it's 256MB. 512MB Ram.
With just one video loaded with hardware accel turned on or off, the cpu sits at 100%, without mixing or doing anything other than playing one video. Even with all the settings set as fastest and sound set back to 3.4.
But audio is flawless, so that's what we use it for, as well as some of our intelligent lights.
Posted Sun 15 Oct 06 @ 10:29 pm
anewsome
jasontgrove wrote :
anewsome:
I don't use TCV because there is so much crap in my booth that I decided against it.
I don't use TCV because there is so much crap in my booth that I decided against it.
your booth doesn't have turntables? i've never seen a dj booth with no turntables.
Posted Mon 16 Oct 06 @ 10:16 pm
anewsome
I'll add to this thread that since this gig on Friday night. My system has been playing videos with VDJ in Automix mode since I got home from the gig. That's almost THREE DAYS non-stop, no hiccups or video freezes whatsoever. No corrupt videos.
Of course this is without timecode. Well I take that back, when I am at home and I've had a few minutes, I have engaged the TCV and manually mixed a couple videos. Then I have to go somewhere so I turn Automix back on.
THREE DAYS non-stop!
Of course this is without timecode. Well I take that back, when I am at home and I've had a few minutes, I have engaged the TCV and manually mixed a couple videos. Then I have to go somewhere so I turn Automix back on.
THREE DAYS non-stop!
Posted Mon 16 Oct 06 @ 10:19 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
Can I ask for you to test one thing?
Is the issue with TC related to the SL-1 box, or no matter what card?
Posted Mon 16 Oct 06 @ 10:56 pm
anewsome
dj-in-norway wrote :
Can I ask for you to test one thing?
Is the issue with TC related to the SL-1 box, or no matter what card?
Can I ask for you to test one thing?
Is the issue with TC related to the SL-1 box, or no matter what card?
I haven't used any other soundcard with VDJ since it started supporting the SL-1, why would I. It's already in my rig (both of them), and it's already installed at all the clubs I play.
The only other cards I have are xp10s. Probably wouldn't use those at the gig. Hercules DJ console, probably wouldn't use that either. I do have a couple of Maya44s laying around that I could try.
If you think it'll make the difference or maybe be more stable for TCV than the SL-1, I'd be glad to try it. I'll do this on Wed. Going to see my friend Steve_DUB open up for DJ AM tonight and then I'm spinning tomorrow night. So we should have some results of testing the Maya44 with TCV (mixing music videos) by Wed.
Posted Tue 17 Oct 06 @ 12:04 am
anewsome
I also forgot to add that at the begining of the night, after one of the many restarts, trying to get TCV working,.. I once had it kind of working in that the LEFT side (once again the flaky side) would only track timecode forward but reverse would do nothing.
Has anyone ever seen that happen, where TCV functions fine forward but does not work at all backward?
Also, is it me or are there more people posting TCV problems with the left side? I am pretty certain that more people post LEFT side TCV problems than right side problems. Is it a coincidence and everyone probably has flaky needles on the left? I doubt it. Which is really weird from a software standpoint. Wouldn't the same exact code in software be used for both the left and the right side? If that's true than how come there are so many left side problems?
Has anyone ever seen that happen, where TCV functions fine forward but does not work at all backward?
Also, is it me or are there more people posting TCV problems with the left side? I am pretty certain that more people post LEFT side TCV problems than right side problems. Is it a coincidence and everyone probably has flaky needles on the left? I doubt it. Which is really weird from a software standpoint. Wouldn't the same exact code in software be used for both the left and the right side? If that's true than how come there are so many left side problems?
Posted Tue 17 Oct 06 @ 1:45 am
anewsome
Ok, two more days until I give this another try. I am changing my setup a bit though, hopefully it will help. The biggest thing is that I will not be using an external drive this time. Last week the drive did cause one problem, one of the guys there yanked the power cord to my setup by accident and because of the external drive and ONLY because of the external drive, I had to power everything off and start all over again. If I did not have any external drive, then my system would have recovered fine from temporary no power.
So I've bought a new drive for the laptop and I have a sparkling fresh Windows XP copy on it right now. Just installed SP2, ATI drivers and I have a couple more things to install (ATI requires .NET). Then I'll install VDJ, restore my databases and get ready for Friday night. I'll be sure and get plenty of testing with the new setup.
You gotta love the feeling of a new Windows XP install. Like flannel pajamas fresh out of the dryer on a cold winter night.
So I've bought a new drive for the laptop and I have a sparkling fresh Windows XP copy on it right now. Just installed SP2, ATI drivers and I have a couple more things to install (ATI requires .NET). Then I'll install VDJ, restore my databases and get ready for Friday night. I'll be sure and get plenty of testing with the new setup.
You gotta love the feeling of a new Windows XP install. Like flannel pajamas fresh out of the dryer on a cold winter night.
Posted Wed 18 Oct 06 @ 6:27 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
Hey, dont install the whole Catalyst package, only the drivers! Its an option you have..
The catalyst software (user control interface) is very very bloated, with at least 2-3 running processes, and slowed my system down.... On top of that, its totally not needed. All control settings can be accessed by righ-click desktop, and go to advanced video settings in Windows.
(btw, this way you dont have to installl .Net either )
Just a tip ;)
Posted Wed 18 Oct 06 @ 6:59 pm
anewsome
You are correct Norway. The ATI drivers are already installed and I can access the settings from my desktop already. However, I don't know if that cool feature of Catalyst will work, where Windows media player will show full screen output on TV out only, even when it's minimized on the primary desktop. I use this feature so I can play music videos with WMP on TV out, while using Serato at the same time. It actually works very well.
If I can do that, then you are right. I do not need or want catalyst.
If I can do that, then you are right. I do not need or want catalyst.
Posted Wed 18 Oct 06 @ 8:34 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
yeah true... but think its all there in the Windows settings...
And I also use this small killer app:
http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/
That lets me specify EXACTLY how I want two monitors to work, what program to show on what output etc ;)
Great little app, that runs in system tray... Like it a lot better than Catalyst.
But its not like Catalyst will ruin your PC ;) hehe
And I also use this small killer app:
http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/
That lets me specify EXACTLY how I want two monitors to work, what program to show on what output etc ;)
Great little app, that runs in system tray... Like it a lot better than Catalyst.
But its not like Catalyst will ruin your PC ;) hehe
Posted Wed 18 Oct 06 @ 9:11 pm
