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Topic: BPM Edit
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
I changed the BPM of a song in the BPM editor. Is there a way I can I get automix to identify that change and mix that song into the next with the updated BPM?
 

Posted Sun 25 Jun 23 @ 12:51 pm
You can't change the tempo of a song by typing a BPM into the tag.
 

Posted Sun 25 Jun 23 @ 5:17 pm
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
groovindj wrote :
You can't change the tempo of a song by typing a BPM into the tag.


Can i change the BPM In the BPM editor? then...have automix identify it as the changed BPM.
 

Posted Sun 25 Jun 23 @ 5:22 pm
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
I guess i will have to change the BPM in another software in order for automix to identify the song at the bpm i want.
 

Posted Mon 26 Jun 23 @ 10:45 pm
Changing the BPM in the BPM editor should do it. Just make sure you delete any subsequent BPM markers that might switch it to the wrong BPM.
 

Posted Tue 27 Jun 23 @ 6:50 am
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
christianwheel wrote :
Changing the BPM in the BPM editor should do it. Just make sure you delete any subsequent BPM markers that might switch it to the wrong BPM.


I did that, It didn't work....Automix DOES NOT identify the new BPM when it mixes...It notes the new BPM in the software, however it mixes with the next song at the OLD BPM..It does not appear to recognize the new BPM because when the two songs mix, they dont automix properly....but what would be considered "BPM markers"? Do you mean like what bpm is in the tag? That changes along with what is changed in the BPM editor. I don't know what other markers there would be.
 

Posted Tue 27 Jun 23 @ 2:26 pm
AdionPRO InfinityCTOMember since 2006
The BPM editor will show the BPM and grid of the song, and is made to correct these in case the automatic detection is wrong.

It is not meant to change the playback speed of the song, and Automix will indeed play back the song at its normal speed, so your only option is indeed to change the speed of the song and re-save the song.
 

Posted Tue 27 Jun 23 @ 2:37 pm
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
Adion wrote :
The BPM editor will show the BPM and grid of the song, and is made to correct these in case the automatic detection is wrong.

It is not meant to change the playback speed of the song, and Automix will indeed play back the song at its normal speed, so your only option is indeed to change the speed of the song and re-save the song.


It would be nice to be able to change the BPM to where you want it and have automix detect it...Thats a real bummer!!..but thank you for your response!
 

Posted Tue 27 Jun 23 @ 3:03 pm
You could that with a POI
 

Posted Tue 27 Jun 23 @ 5:32 pm
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
groovindj wrote :
You could that with a POI


I could what? Change the BPM? How? When i hit BPM from the POI it takes me to the BPM editor, and that does not work.
 

Posted Wed 28 Jun 23 @ 10:17 am
 

Posted Wed 28 Jun 23 @ 10:43 am
Did you think that changing the bpm tag would change the tempo of the playing track?
That's not how tags work
It's just meta data for things like sync to use when syncing
So unless it has been detected wrong, changing the BPM tag just makes your sync related features not work anymore
To change the tempo of a playing track, you use the pitch features. You can indeed do that automatically by using a POI
 

Posted Wed 28 Jun 23 @ 1:30 pm
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
klausmogensen wrote :
Did you think that changing the bpm tag would change the tempo of the playing track?
That's not how tags work
It's just meta data for things like sync to use when syncing
So unless it has been detected wrong, changing the BPM tag just makes your sync related features not work anymore
To change the tempo of a playing track, you use the pitch features. You can indeed do that automatically by using a POI


I was hoping they did ..or the BPM editor..... I had to use the POI editor. I added an action to change the BPM on the first beat then used the global toggling based on your video to change it back and forth. It makes it easier than having to do it in another software. Love your videos btw, they help tremendously.
 

Posted Wed 28 Jun 23 @ 1:52 pm
There's a reason why DJ equipment has pitch faders for each deck. That's what DJs use to change the tempo of the track. Not by editing the BPM figure in the tag - in any DJ software.
 

Posted Wed 28 Jun 23 @ 4:37 pm
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
groovindj wrote :
There's a reason why DJ equipment has pitch faders for each deck. That's what DJs use to change the tempo of the track. Not by editing the BPM figure in the tag - in any DJ software.


Regardless of the reason, it would be nice to be able to change the bpm of the song in the software's BPM editor....and have automix recognize the change...since the BPM editor is for working with the BPM of the song...if not ..it is what it is, i am not trying to put down the software.... I always speak highly of it.
 

Posted Wed 28 Jun 23 @ 5:39 pm
OK since you don't seem to be grasping this, I'll try again from a different angle.

The BPM figure in the tag is providing information - on the original tempo of the track, calculated from the beat grid. It's not for setting the tempo.

Similar to the speedometer of a car telling you how fast the car is going. It doesn't set the speed of the car, it just tells you how fast it's going.
 

Posted Wed 28 Jun 23 @ 7:30 pm
J J ZrnPRO InfinityMember since 2019
groovindj wrote :
OK since you don't seem to be grasping this, I'll try again from a different angle.

The BPM figure in the tag is providing information - on the original tempo of the track, calculated from the beat grid. It's not for setting the tempo.

Similar to the speedometer of a car telling you how fast the car is going. It doesn't set the speed of the car, it just tells you how fast it's going.


Oh..i grasp this very well...I get it!!..I'm sorry i ever brought this subject up!! OMG!!
 

Posted Thu 29 Jun 23 @ 11:33 am