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Topic: Using Sync with Vinyl Timecode
So i want to to be able to use sync on occasion while spinning vinyl. But it simply does not work. It seems to initially try to match up the tracks but then immediately goes out of beat - no matter what "mode" I have the software on.
1) Is it even possible to have the software override the deck pitch settings and sync timecode vinyl?
2) If so, what do you think the issue could be? Because it certainly does not work.

Note that while watching the software BPM counter, the first and second place fraction (decimal) varies quickly and sometimes goes off by nearly a entire BPM. Is THIS normal?

Thanks!
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 9:46 pm
Did you set the DVS timecode mode to "smart mode"?
In this mode, you can apply software "overrides" and use more software features while using vinyls

Although depends on what you mean by "goes off beat", if this is over time slowly, it might just be wow and flutter of the turntable itself. Turntables dont rotate at a 100% precise rotation so there will be some drift. That you adjust by the center of the turntable or pushing / dragging the vinyl a tiny bit (even ride the pitch for small changes). Part of the charm ;-)


Also check the timecode calibration that the signal is good at a 100% ish signal with decent green circle indicated
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 9:54 pm
YES. It is in Smart mode. Still does not work......i will go count how fast it gets out of beat......

IMMEDIATELY.

Its on smart mode and i press sync, I can visually see the visual line up, and then 2 BPMS later its out of sync.
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 9:55 pm
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 10:07 pm
Thanks but yes signal is great, pitch at 100% flutters up and down. Is that normal? I am starting to wonder if it is the decks.

I can say with 100% certainty one deck is faster, so that means I have to ride the pitch to keep it in sync. I THOUGHT the software would compensate for this fact - but it wont.


Let me give more details:
1) I start both tracks (the same exact track) at the same time. I even press sycn to get the lined up perfectly.
2) THey go out of sync
3) I press sync again, (or line them up by spin) and they go out again.
The software in fact is what is able to tell me something is wrong here.
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 10:24 pm
mattxwill wrote :
pitch at 100% flutters up and down.
I can say with 100% certainty one deck is faster, so that means I have to ride the pitch to keep it in sync


That might explain the issues .. if its a lot of difference or flutter
Try see if you can get a stable signal / speed by grounding the turntable, remove any interference etc

But could just be the motor that is having issues with inaccurate rotations
The software should override, needs a good steady signal.

Press auto calibration button in Timecode settings to try refresh the detection just in case.
If its a very noisy or vibrating enviroment you could also try adjust the timecodeSilence a bit higher.

 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 10:27 pm
thanks i am using version 8 and i do NOT see an auto calibration button. maybe i need to reinstall the software.
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 10:42 pm
@mattxwill you need to be aware that sync in VDJ does not lock the two tracks together. It's not an on or off thing. Other DJ software may well keep the tracks grids aligned as they play, but VDJ sync does not.
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 10:43 pm
 

Posted Sun 21 Feb 21 @ 10:44 pm
1. What turntables are you using?
2. What DVS vinyl are you using?
3. What needles are you using (1, 2 & 3 can all cause issues with drift if they are low quality components)
4. Are you using a legit copy of VDJ Pro or just using the 20 min max time limit on your Home license? If it's a cracked version of the software, then it will cause a lot of instability and problems.

Also, make sure your turntables are set up properly with the counterweight and anti-drift. If the counter weight isnt set properly, your needle could be bouncing around causing some drift.
 

Posted Mon 22 Feb 21 @ 1:40 pm