groovindj
When you bought the controller, VDJ LE came in the box free (to you).
You did not pay for VDJ LE. You paid for the controller.
If you want the missing VDJ features, you have to pay for a license.
You did not pay for VDJ LE. You paid for the controller.
If you want the missing VDJ features, you have to pay for a license.
Posted Tue 25 Jul 17 @ 5:34 pm
leejedi
No I paid for the package both didn't say vdj free did it
Posted Tue 25 Jul 17 @ 6:26 pm
leejedi
Don't want all other features just BMP which should be standard
Posted Tue 25 Jul 17 @ 6:30 pm
locoDog
You got what you paid for a partymix with LE bundled in. Don't think that what is included or omitted from LE was a decision taken lightly,
You received a free trial of a controller licence, did you like the trial? Did you like it enough to buy a controller licence?
Yes it's a lure - that's business.
That's the way it is.
If you organise your tunes by genre, then no database bpm reading isn't a problem,
But, my opinion, if you're really into djing you'll out grow the party mix in not much time at all.
You received a free trial of a controller licence, did you like the trial? Did you like it enough to buy a controller licence?
Yes it's a lure - that's business.
That's the way it is.
If you organise your tunes by genre, then no database bpm reading isn't a problem,
But, my opinion, if you're really into djing you'll out grow the party mix in not much time at all.
Posted Tue 25 Jul 17 @ 6:48 pm
leejedi
That's your opinions one bad review is worth 20 good one
https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2OPUVWM8APNU9/ref=pe_1572281_66412651_cm_rv_eml_rv0_rv
https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2OPUVWM8APNU9/ref=pe_1572281_66412651_cm_rv_eml_rv0_rv
Posted Tue 25 Jul 17 @ 7:48 pm
kradcliffe
There are plenty of other reviews saying exactly the same thing but I doubt anything will change.
Posted Tue 25 Jul 17 @ 7:53 pm
Serine
That's a fair point about DJ's learning to DJ raw so they can graduate to professional DJing, but what about the DJs who just want to play at friends' parties from time to time? I don't have time to practice or develop my skills much so I really value the software features of VDJ and am quite happy tinkering in my living room. I'm lucky to be able to afford a full licence and bought it because I really like the software but I appreciate that younger folks in my shoes (and even myself for many years) couldn't afford a full licence.
I understand that VDJ will have discussed this at length and respect the decision, I'm more playing devil's advocate here I suppose.
I understand that VDJ will have discussed this at length and respect the decision, I'm more playing devil's advocate here I suppose.
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 11:55 am
groovindj
Serine wrote :
what about the DJs who just want to play at friends' parties
I think it applies to any and all DJs. If you learn to do it without all the hand holding stuff, then you won't come to rely on it and won't get stuck if you ever find yourself without it.
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 5:05 pm
kradcliffe
If the technology is there to read and display a BPM then why should someone not use it. I side with the OP on this one. It's just restricting the software out of spite hoping to force a paid upgrade.
@groovin Do you still ride a horse to work instead of having a car or light a fire with flint and sticks in your lounge instead of central heating?
@groovin Do you still ride a horse to work instead of having a car or light a fire with flint and sticks in your lounge instead of central heating?
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 5:12 pm
groovindj
I'm not saying "don't use it". I'm saying that learning to do without it is beneficial.
I wonder, does LE not display BPM etc in the decks either, when a track is loaded? If it shows in the deck(s) then it's not so much of an issue.
I wonder, does LE not display BPM etc in the decks either, when a track is loaded? If it shows in the deck(s) then it's not so much of an issue.
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 5:21 pm
Mr DJ Mel
Leejedi - I think your issues should be taken up with Numark. Numark sell and market the product and not VDJ, if they have not made it clear what software (and its limitations) is included with the controller that is their issue. worst case, send it back for refund via Amazon and save up for better setup.
I came from a generation where we had no idea of BPM of a track and it was part of the learning process to beat match and use your ears as the main skill component.
Now I know tech has moved on greatly and I have been a user of VDJ for many years now, but it was gradual step from vinyl, to CDJs, USB, to now using VDJ.
You just have to know that the craft is learned and honed and you cant expect to be given a shortcut ride with all the fancy software that are now available with their sync and automix features. I know of many DJs that rely so heavily on the tech provided nowadays that if you put them in front of a set of turntables or an old set of CDJ, they would not know what to do.
So be that better person and try to use the tools that are available to you now and better yourself and learn the art of djing. Not being able to see the BPM of a track will not stop you being able to mix them together. Infact you will in the end find it more beneficial as you grow the skill of learning to know the rough BPMs of tracks for yourself and knowing what to mix next etc.
I came from a generation where we had no idea of BPM of a track and it was part of the learning process to beat match and use your ears as the main skill component.
Now I know tech has moved on greatly and I have been a user of VDJ for many years now, but it was gradual step from vinyl, to CDJs, USB, to now using VDJ.
You just have to know that the craft is learned and honed and you cant expect to be given a shortcut ride with all the fancy software that are now available with their sync and automix features. I know of many DJs that rely so heavily on the tech provided nowadays that if you put them in front of a set of turntables or an old set of CDJ, they would not know what to do.
So be that better person and try to use the tools that are available to you now and better yourself and learn the art of djing. Not being able to see the BPM of a track will not stop you being able to mix them together. Infact you will in the end find it more beneficial as you grow the skill of learning to know the rough BPMs of tracks for yourself and knowing what to mix next etc.
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 5:24 pm
wildcountryclub
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 7:32 pm
leejedi
How's whining just stating facts now what you get and don't get people need to know professional club DJ superstar
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 11:44 pm
leejedi
From Numark
Hi Lee,
Thank you for reaching out to us. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you!
We do not make the Virtual DJ software and have no input on what features are included in the LE version.
If you have additional questions or concerns, or if the information we provided today does not help completely resolve your inquiry, please let me know!
For additional assistance, or to re-open your case, just respond to this email with your case number 1248712 in the subject line. I'll be glad to help!
Best Regards,
Hermann Bellanton
Technical Support & Return Authorizations Specialist
inMusic Brands
Hi Lee,
Thank you for reaching out to us. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you!
We do not make the Virtual DJ software and have no input on what features are included in the LE version.
If you have additional questions or concerns, or if the information we provided today does not help completely resolve your inquiry, please let me know!
For additional assistance, or to re-open your case, just respond to this email with your case number 1248712 in the subject line. I'll be glad to help!
Best Regards,
Hermann Bellanton
Technical Support & Return Authorizations Specialist
inMusic Brands
Posted Wed 26 Jul 17 @ 11:48 pm
wildcountryclub
leejedi wrote :
How's whining just stating facts now what you get and don't get people need to know professional club DJ superstar
not a superstar and will never claim to be but i AM a professional who does things like read manuals, read up on and research the products and equipment i am buying BEFORE buying them so that there aren't any surprises later on.
you have no one to blame for your purchases and the results except yourself.
Posted Thu 27 Jul 17 @ 1:01 am
leejedi
John m howard wrote.
you have no business posting in a forum where adults are involved.
This is a forum freedom of speech not your personal domain.
you have no business posting in a forum where adults are involved.
This is a forum freedom of speech not your personal domain.
Posted Thu 27 Jul 17 @ 1:13 am
wildcountryclub
pretty sure you should include the previous part of that so it won't be taken out of context.
that being said - where i am, adults take responsibilty for their actions.
it's the buyers responsibility to be aware of what they are purchasing.
"caveat emptor"
ca·ve·at emp·tor
ˌkavēˌät ˈem(p)ˌtôr
noun
the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.
i very thoroughly researched the available dj softwares before making an informed decision when the club went all digital. key word: before. i found out as much as i could about all 4 softwares before evalutating them and then making a final decision.
that being said - where i am, adults take responsibilty for their actions.
it's the buyers responsibility to be aware of what they are purchasing.
"caveat emptor"
ca·ve·at emp·tor
ˌkavēˌät ˈem(p)ˌtôr
noun
the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.
i very thoroughly researched the available dj softwares before making an informed decision when the club went all digital. key word: before. i found out as much as i could about all 4 softwares before evalutating them and then making a final decision.
Posted Thu 27 Jul 17 @ 1:22 am
leejedi
Thank for contributing good night
Posted Thu 27 Jul 17 @ 1:29 am
geemix
At the end of the day, you get a fully functional version of VDJ that you can use to mix and learn from.
It is not a demo version but LE. Sure some features shall be missing, which is very common on all software. Demos or LE's.
At the same time, I can see the point about VDJ being a great tool for new dj's to learn BPM from and for that to be missing is maybe bad for the end user.
But from the developer point of view, they do want people to upgrade from the LE version and do offer various options and prices.
Not only that, but sometimes (as with myself) a discount is offered for various controller/LE packages to upgrade. Which helps people afford the software too.
Maybe this is something Numark and Atomix could sort out between them. "Special Upgrade Offer when you purchase this controller and register". Giving the user maybe a couple of months to see if they like the software enough to purchase it within a time period after registering.
We certainly don't want VDJ's LE version to go down the "you have used this software 30 times, demo expired, please purchase to continue" route now do we?
There are cases to be made on both sides, for and against lack of features.
Nobody is to blame. Not you, not Atomix nor Numark.
But some friendly email to VDJ and explain things correctly and ask about any discounts/pricing for upgrading without threats of "I am gonna post negative reviews on Amazon" would go a long way.
I understand the anger. I have been there with other "demo" softwares and advert ridden apps in the past.
But if you think of it like a movie trailer, you get enough action to know if you want the full movie or not.
If you do:
You either go to the cinema and watch it once or buy it on disc/digital download and enjoy it time and time again.
(Just like the various pricing options for VDJ)
If not:
You simply watch the next trailer until you find the one you want.
(Move onto another DJ software)
Good luck in your decision and choice.
It is not a demo version but LE. Sure some features shall be missing, which is very common on all software. Demos or LE's.
At the same time, I can see the point about VDJ being a great tool for new dj's to learn BPM from and for that to be missing is maybe bad for the end user.
But from the developer point of view, they do want people to upgrade from the LE version and do offer various options and prices.
Not only that, but sometimes (as with myself) a discount is offered for various controller/LE packages to upgrade. Which helps people afford the software too.
Maybe this is something Numark and Atomix could sort out between them. "Special Upgrade Offer when you purchase this controller and register". Giving the user maybe a couple of months to see if they like the software enough to purchase it within a time period after registering.
We certainly don't want VDJ's LE version to go down the "you have used this software 30 times, demo expired, please purchase to continue" route now do we?
There are cases to be made on both sides, for and against lack of features.
Nobody is to blame. Not you, not Atomix nor Numark.
But some friendly email to VDJ and explain things correctly and ask about any discounts/pricing for upgrading without threats of "I am gonna post negative reviews on Amazon" would go a long way.
I understand the anger. I have been there with other "demo" softwares and advert ridden apps in the past.
But if you think of it like a movie trailer, you get enough action to know if you want the full movie or not.
If you do:
You either go to the cinema and watch it once or buy it on disc/digital download and enjoy it time and time again.
(Just like the various pricing options for VDJ)
If not:
You simply watch the next trailer until you find the one you want.
(Move onto another DJ software)
Good luck in your decision and choice.
Posted Thu 10 Aug 17 @ 10:05 am
Mrcarter101
Ok so the BPM tab is no longer displayed. My only question is what else are they going to remove from the program. If is right for them to make these drastic changes it’s only fair to keep the consumer the one who purchased the products with the common understandings that I was getting a complete and fully operational piece on merchandise of all future changes. I just need to know if I should start looking for something better removing the BPM was a bad mistake it a useful tool for additional info on a given track. I not asking for anything free just basic information.
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