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OK, I understand that first I am going to get others say first to buy the songs so want to get that out of the way I know that. Content Unlimited seems to be getting a little out of control since....well for a while now. One thing is you can't tell whats the songs that are the better quality till you try to listen to them and sometime that does not help when someone changes the kbps from a low to high number. Last night I DJed for a friends birthday online and I had no problem looking up her songs without content unlimited paid service since I left it just after a month they started to be pay again and seeing I was getting the same songs and about the same quality in search as there so called HQ ones (after the whole copyright thing with the other company). But today took the cake, I logged in and looked up a couple of songs and they are cut down to 30 second each....even ones there service is taking from YouTube. Now I can see if its there music on there servers but the stuff not on it should not be part of the paid service cause that sound like there ripping us off now and I really was thinking of going back to the paid before I saw that and after having a good time DJing for my friend. But for them to be using YouTube still in the search and now having to pay to do so seems like a rip off. I think it need to be one service then and all HQ tunes and stop ripping us off if they want my biz back.
 
Posted Fri 07 Aug 15 @ 4:10 pm
This is how the service works. You pay your monthly subscription, and you get content unlimited. As a bonus of that subscription, you get netsearch. The key word here is bonus, as you are not paying for that. If you don't pay for the subscription service, you do not get the bonus service. This service cost $10.00 a month, far less than if you were to buy all of this music. Some find this service comes in handy, to augment their collection. I know I spend $40.00 a month for PrimeCuts , and that does not include the 4 subscriptions I have for my video services. We know everyone can't afford some of the subscription services out there, but everyone has a choice. You just have to pick one that works best for you. Hope that clears things up.
 
The songs that were only 30 seconds were perhaps previews? Maybe your search settings include video results when you only have a audio subscription?
 
Adion, he stopped paying, that's why he's getting the 30 second previews. I don't know how he thinks the company is ripping him off, if he's not paying for the service?
 
What I used the other day searched and grabbed any file, no matter YouTube or not. Thing is, there is no way to tell where its coming from. I know these came from YouTube as I used direct links the day before and the same links only gave me 30 the next day. Also, with there own words from there own FAQ page:
IMPORTANT: NetSearch has now been superseded by ContentUnlimited. Upgrading to the latest version of VirtualDJ is strongly recommended to take full advantage of this new service.
NOTE: At the time of release of VirtualDJ v7.4, existing NetSearch/Grooveshark subscribers were automatically moved over to the Audio Plan (The monthly fee is the same.)
So how I read that, getting songs from YouTube would not be a bonus, its part of there new plan.
 
WHat I am more getting at it if I got back to the paid plan, where am I getting the music from?
 
There are 2 things you can do:
-Remove netsearch results completely by disabling it from the search options
-Check the color of the result icon. Red are normal results, purple are netsearch results
 
I was not asking how to turn it off.

What I am asking more is:
1) How they charge for something that should not be part of there charged service (Netsearch).
2) Where are they now getting there new service from cause I looked around and seems like they went around that part in the forum answers they give and on the subscription page its self. (If you read the Subscription page, you can find the name of the video and karaoke plan's company name but they don't say the audio plan's companies name)
At least before they told us it was from Grooveshark but where is it coming from now and is this place really been checked out cause we all thought GS was too till all that legal stuff came up. I am all for paying a subscription but still already felt ripped off from paying for years before and finding out that money never really made it to the artist. All in all, do you all know who really is getting your money?

Update: I am also reading other sites asking the same thing I am, who is this new source there using. No one seems to know so are we again getting ripped off.
 
As can be found here:
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/201201/General_Discussion/_OFFICIAL__ContentUnlimited_Audio__SOLVED__download_v7_4_6_or_v8_0_2338_.html?page=9
We use iDJPool as audio provider at the moment.

Note that Grooveshark did have licenses with most major labels, and that the lawsuit that forced them to stop was only for a very small portion of their catalog (I don't remember the numbers exactly, but less than 4000 songs out of the 17 million song catalog)
So most artists would have gotten paid while using their service.
 
It appears those who don't subscribe to content unlimited have the most to say about the service, and it's always negative.
How can that be?
I'm entitled to grumble..I pay, but I'm happy.

Atomix are the only company in our world who provide this remarkable service.
Traktor, and Serato can't do it.

This service is an equalizer, the typical club dj's do not take requests, and concentrate on a small range of songs, but the mobile has to, yet with the help of content unlimited they can still technically compete with club dj's, plus offer a host of extra features.
VDJ, and content unlimited must have a vast number of enemies among the club dj community.
They have opened the door for the many who can then challenge the skills of the so called elite.
DJ'ing geniuses will appear all over our would who otherwise may have been excluded.
 
I thought it was a pretty simple question but still and not even Adion will answer this basic question.......

Where does the content come from??

Is it coming from YouTube, is it coming from Soundcloud, where does the content come from??

As far as getting ripped off I can kinda see his point. I mean YouTube is free and its not like Atomix is hosting the files so other then the programming Atomix isn't doing anything yet they charge people.

Now I've used both the audio and video subscriptions and the audio is worth it (when it was coming from GrooveShark) but I just couldn't justify the 50 bucks for videos that ill never be able to keep so I dropped it.

Point is if the content is coming from YouTube I dont feel that we should be charged for it......
 
 
Well that settles that, lol!!

Thanks.
 
NinjaRisu wrote :
One thing is you can't tell whats the songs that are the better quality till you try to listen to them


Any result with a red icon from the ContentUnlimited audio service should be a high quality file as this is from our partner provider. I know this doesn't apply to you now, but to others - if a red file is poor quality then please let us know (premium members forum is the best place) so that we can report this to our content provider and they can then investigate and fix.

Purple icons are obviously netsearch results and should absolutely be listened to before using.

NinjaRisu wrote :
1) How they charge for something that should not be part of there charged service (Netsearch).


We don't charge more. Netsearch is provided as a bonus service to Premium members. We don't charge for it.

beatbreaker1 wrote :
Where does the content come from??


Adion answered above; ContentUnlimited Audio is sourced from iDJPool.

beatbreaker1 wrote :
As far as getting ripped off I can kinda see his point. I mean YouTube is free and its not like Atomix is hosting the files so other then the programming Atomix isn't doing anything yet they charge people.


As I said above we don't charge for Netsearch. If we did, there would be a seperate Netsearch subscription. It's just a bonus. I didn't realise we weren't allowed to throw in a bonus for subscribers, seems everyone really does want something for nothing these days.
 
Well if its free does that mean I can use it without a subscription??
 
No, it a bonus to Content Unlimited subscribers.
 
Yeah that makes sense because if we could no one would pay for the other then.......
 
First to the one who didn't read, I was a paid customer so don't comment if you can't read the whole thing. I left after most of my searches where youtube and other sources as I even seen others complain they where getting in the forums after there switch. I was waiting to see where this new source was from till I came back.

The only FAQ saying its netsearch is bonus is the old FAQ page that also still state the GrooveShark is the source.
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/How%20do%20I%20use%20NetSearch.html
also
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/What%20is%20NetSearch.html
This FAQ says to me that its is part of the paid service now as almost all the FAQ says its not even used anymore like this one says right out:
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/I%20am%20unable%20to%20save%20ContentUnlimited%20songs%20in%20a%20playlist.html
"NOTE: If you are using a version prior to v7.4 with an audio plan subscription, then you will need to click on the NetSearch folder instead to show your downloaded cached files. NetSearch was replaced by ContentUnlimited in VirtualDJ v7.4"

Also, that is one hell of a discount they are getting if they really are using idjpool & VJ-Pro as both together would be $80 for the cheapest and that does not include that VJ-Pro uses a credit system. If this is what they are using, why have they not posted this up where all can see instead of a forum page by a staff member where like I also said others are asked too have not seen.

And last, reading the ToS on VJ-Pro still means I cant use there service as I would be breaking them as I DJ online to clubs in virtual worlds. There ToS stays it can't be streamed:

" VJ-Pro assets are not for use in any web streaming, network or cable broadcast performance, digital or hard goods re-sale, or for any use by any third party or commercial or non-profit enterprise outside of VJ-Pro's content provider's defined terms of content use."

Which is something else they should be posting if there using this service while iDJpool allows me to. So in other words I would still need to know where the HQ ones are coming from to know what I can and can't use.

From iDJPool FAQ
"Who can join/subscribe to your service?
Mobile DJs, Club DJs, Radio DJs, Radio Stations, Bars, Clubs and Entertainers are eligible to join."

Also, wonder how many have really read this page:
http://www.virtualdj.com/wiki/Do%20I%20need%20a%20public%20performance%20or%20music%20license%20if%20I%20am%20only%20playing%20songs%20from%20NetSearch.html
 
This guy is typical of those who attack CU, a non subscriber, one who does not pay.
However beware, he reminds me of Gríma Wormtongue.
An evil force may lurk behind his words.
He does not appear to be a bedroom, mobile, club, or radio DJ.

I suspect that the shysters with their legal shenanigans can exterminate the DJ's of our world.
At least all those they do not own.
Such is the legal minefield that they have created.
I could argue that since our money is created by the international banker, and is little more than numbers stored on a computer then the ownership of the content might one day become debatable.


 
One big, you really can't read

Two, straight from asking VJ-Pro as you all can ask yourself via e-mail:
"All content regardless of provider on VDJ is for public performance applications only. All providers operate with the same licensing restrictions. I would know as I helped craft the agreement templates. So anything you derive from there is not for broadcast steaming. Stick to content you have actually downloaded and own if you want to avoid getting in trouble
"
 
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