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Topic: What is the big deal about Video Mixing?

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I keep hearing about how much people are getting into Video Mixing...I myself am not interested in doing it. But I would like to see it done. All the blending and scratching. Is there a web site or does anyone have a video that demonstrates Video Mixing? I would like to see what the big deal is. I am one of them that pissed and moaned about it when VDJ added Video Mixing to thier new update. But in all fairness, I can't really reject what I haven't seen done. I have seen a few DJs playing videos...but there has to be more to it than that. So show this Audio DJ what I might be missing...

I just want to see it in action.



MS
 

Posted Mon 25 Jul 05 @ 4:41 am
DJ CyderPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2003
Its a whole other demsion you can add to your mix. I have so many compliments from video I'm blown away from the responce. Last night I did a small gig and handed out close to 100 business card's they all wanted video at their parties.
 

Posted Mon 25 Jul 05 @ 7:47 am
vpcdjHome userMember since 2004
video is cool coz
1. now the wack djs can divert attention from them. i see a lot of djs now use that mixmeister thing.
2. its something new.
3. audio + video is better than just audio.
 

Posted Fri 29 Jul 05 @ 12:10 am
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003
It's great if your set-up/circumstances permit it, if the club owner wants it etc, but if you play underground muisc with no video, then you'll need to use alternative video footage, personally I like all that funky stuff in Winamp and media player.
 

Posted Fri 29 Jul 05 @ 12:37 am
But...my question was if anyone had a video of Video Mixing? Looping, blending and scratching?


MS
 

Posted Fri 29 Jul 05 @ 12:58 am
I am very disappointed in all of you Video DJs. No one could persuade me in the importance of Video DJing. All I wanted to see was a video of someone mixing and scratching videos.
For shame...


MS
 

Posted Sun 31 Jul 05 @ 10:07 pm
frd1963PRO InfinityMember since 2004
MadSound,

When you watch a video of a DJ showing off their 'skillz' notice that it is usually filmed in their bedroom (LOL and no offense to bedroom DJ/VJ's)
Those of us who actually use the advanced features of VDJ in public generally don't have the time to video tape our performance, though it would be nice. I do often record my shows (audio only) so I can play them back and constructiviely criticize my own performance, but being able to watch the video portion of it would be very helpful too. Perhaps the VDJ team will add the ability to record the audio and video.

Let me just say that the addition of video to your mix gets the audience's attention at least a bit more and definitely adds to the WOW factor of your show. It may not be for everyone, but if your intention is to give your customers the most for their money, then adding video goes a long way towards that.

Also, it makes it more fun for me and fun is the real reason I still DJ.

-Frd
 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 4:41 pm
mp3jrickPRO InfinityHonorary MemberMember since 2003
Come to Atlantic City and see Roonie G or DJ Second Nature in action if you want a good show.

It is done with the Pioneer DVJ's but the visual is going to answer your question.

Have you ever seen video in action?
 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 5:12 pm
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003
It is a big trend at the moment, theirs screens everywhere!, have you not seen them?, a new ice cream shop has opened up in the city here, and it must have about 5 flat screens, and their selling ice cream, their just everywhere, and your either like it, or you don't..

For me, it's a bit in your face, and kinda extragent, for clubs though, I actually think it's very good, but it's almost unfair, because some people will be luckily enough to work in a club where they have all the gear, and it would be especially rare that a club manager would allow you you take your laptop along, wire it all up, and then put on the DJ/VJ show.., it seems a bit complex, but the pioneer option is good, if the DJ can use it..

For now it's really kinda new, and quite a specialist area, but eventually it'll become standard in one way or another..

For me, their should probably be a DJ and VJ working together, but again, that could be more traditional.., i've seen the pioneers, and it looks awsome.., quite expensive though.

Video for me is a nice and attractive addition in the clubs, a real way of re-inviting interet in the scene, especially 'dance' focused clubs, but for the average DJ, it will be down to preference, expense, and practicality.., things that will probably change in the next two years I would guess..

Bagpuss - not into video...yet.

 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 6:31 pm
vpcdjHome userMember since 2004
maddsounds from my observations not too many people appreciate scratching either. especially the girls. the girls dont really give a damn about the technicalities of djing. so just like the way this video thing doesnt impress u, the girls all-together dont give a damn about scratching.

personally the video thing doesnt really impress me but it works for other djs. the bars in my area have the video mixmeister thing and looking at it from the audience point of view its sumthing new and adds to the gig.
2. people get to see the video for the first time.
3. people get to see the dance moves in the video.
4. they see what the (new) artist looks like.
etc...
all in all video doesnt take away anything to the set. it adds.
i like videos done well like the mtv2 monster mixes. vdj is not there yet but its the leader and headed that way.

i personally think looping, blending and scratching would look cool on vdj. (so long as the dj does it right).
 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 9:01 pm
mp3jrickPRO InfinityHonorary MemberMember since 2003
5) Videos have a 6 week rotation at best.

So to have a collection that includes the lost and forgotten, breathes new life into songs that charted hard in their time.
And to have a collection that dates back to the 70's (useless for some of you) is fascinating to many who never even knew what the artists even looked like.

As far as the Monster Mix is concerned, that is creative lab mixing.
By that I mean a clever wipe/transition that is beat mixed, clearly audible EVERY TIME.
You know the transition is coming, which is kind of rough and predictable.

Personally from what I have seen, scratching is not good for video IMO.
Yes, I want to experiment with it but......
Scratch audio with video is much more acceptable to me, but to have visuals reversing is just not the same as audio as an effect.

To have a live video playing on A deck while scratching on B would mean both images will be present on the screen, which unless you are transitioning is a bit much particularly when one is scratching back and forth.
I suspect people will be wondering what the hell is going on when they see it, to the ear it is cool, to the eye I find it somewhat confusing and you better not screw it up the eyes are not forgiving.

I agree that looping and overlaying with VDJ does a fine job over traditional video playback.
 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 9:54 pm
bagpussPRO InfinityMember since 2003
I agree Rick, what I did enjoy doing was playing a dance song on deckA (no video), and on deckB , play a george bush clip, find a part with motion, and scratch back and forth, so you have Bush noding his head and appearing to dance if you get a good clip!, that is amusing stuff :).
 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 10:13 pm
acw_djPRO InfinitySenior staffMember since 2005
I have some laugh with this topic... DJ Maddsound, I do the same with video or with audio, with loops and scratch also... it's fun, (but I'm not a good scratcher). Don't be disappointed, don't be impacient... But think in this, "An image said more than a 1000 words". With Video you can surprise (for now) and fill another sense for the crowd. The lighting, audio, the place and his people, now plus videoclips. It's another aid to impact. I will record some of the video mixing and then contact you.
 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 10:28 pm
mp3jrickPRO InfinityHonorary MemberMember since 2003
By the way, as you scan and play your files, look for anything resembling a dance step particularly if it is animated.
Store these in a folder/playlist and overlay them on the idle deck in sync with the live deck, then fade just the video for a while. Remember you only have visual so keeping it in sync is the objective as well.

I have a video of Playgroup's "Number One" that features a club beat with a PC that evolves into a dancing figure and it kicks. Load that up with a video anywhere near the bpm, cue it, sync it and fade just the video. Now you have completely changed the whole impact of the track.
You can use this with any track that is good but dry, or has content issues.

Another cool effect is to find tracks with longer intros (+32) that feature dance choreography with bright colors and action.
Take the track and loop it so it aligns properly and then fade the video slowly.
Now you have one artist dancing in time to anothers music, when the break comes click on the lower fader so that it snaps at the same time taking it out of loop.

So keep your eyes open for these types of clips and try it, it will blow your mind.
 

Posted Mon 01 Aug 05 @ 11:13 pm
Alright! That was what I was looking for. Thanks guys...just alittle curious. Video Mixing isn't a big thing here in Chicago. Maybe, just maybe a handfull of clubs offer it. Maybe. Could be that the gear is very expensive.

MS
 

Posted Tue 02 Aug 05 @ 12:03 am


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