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I didn't get to post in DJ Allstyle's MAC thread do to it being closed. Sorry for starting a new thread but I also DJ in Chicago and would love to link with fellow CHii DJ's who are going to use the VDJ to do all video sets as I may have gigs for them.

:: AllStyle :: I have been waiting on the MAC version to drop for at least 6 months or so. I am only a MAC user and am banking on this software being stable with OS X. I'm in the same boat as you but I already own Serato. Serato is super stable on MAC's but...It can't do videos! I got alot banking on this software performing flawlessly so I've been patient as far as awaitng a good MAC product instead of one they just release to satisfy the few people who want (which could be buggy). Im definitely want to link up with you on the video tip if your interested. I'm trying to get a crew of all VDJ's (or VT's as Conquest calls it) so we can swarm Chicago and make a little more cash. I currently got a few residencies that are interested in going to all videos. (Spoon, Goodbar, Neat Lounge (hasn't opened yet), Leopard Lounge, Grand Central, The Central.....ect....If your on myspace, send me a message. www.myspace.com/djcharliefive.

And :: VDJ Crew :: Serato is in the work with videos. No joke. Do the research on it. Ive got in touch with some people who are claiming its coming this spring/summer.
 

Posted Mon 29 Jan 07 @ 9:16 pm
SSL doing videos is old news by now;)
And its first ever release are this summer at the EARLIEST..

VDJ done video mixing for years, so not too worried:)
SSL video is a payed for extention too, VDJ video mixing was given free to all pro users


MAC version is getting real close Charlie---

Now, gimme five!;) hehe
 

Posted Mon 29 Jan 07 @ 10:01 pm
"FIVE"
 

Posted Mon 29 Jan 07 @ 11:05 pm
That was your five Norway.

I know VDJ has been doing videos for quite some time now, thats why I can't wait for the MAC release.
 

Posted Mon 29 Jan 07 @ 11:15 pm
CHARL1E F1VE wrote :
I'm trying to get a crew of all VDJ's (or VT's as Conquest calls it) so we can swarm Chicago and make a little more cash.


CHARL1E F1VE -

That's EXACTLY what I've been doing here in the California (first Southern and now Northern as well since I was up at MacWorld san Franciso 2 weeks ago) radio and club circuit since the Mac version was announced last summer. =)

This is the JUMP OFF of the new and now MUCH improved Visual Turntablism art form and it's artists, VT's - Visual Turntablists!

Due in large part to the ability to simultaneously manipulate audio and visual imagery/video (e.g. music videos), synchronized or not, using vinyl records (analog, timecode, or both) and turntables!

djallstyle -

I apologize if you misunderstand why it is that I mention the people I know, believe me it's NOT name dropping for the sake of name dropping, it's re-assurance that I'm spreading the word about Atomix/Numark and VirtualDj/Virtual Vinyl among high profile individuals, groups and artists (primarily turntablists) who are all using SSL on Macs and that Atomix/Numark ABSOLUTELY need in order to penetrate the professional US turntablist market.

It's not, as norway would put it ;) , a "my D**K is bigger than yours" pissing contest. You obviously now a LOT of important people as well. Combined, we can ALL advance the art of Visual Turntablism and - sorry beat matchers/pitch adjusters and Automixers, this isn't about you, it's about US ;) - differentiate ourselves by putting a spotlight on the pride we take in being creative artists who go beyond simply replaying someone elses work.

We will differntiate ourselves from everybody and their mother who calls themselves a "DJ", because until now (with the evolution of TRUE Visual Turntablism and it's artists, Visual Turntablists) there had really been NO differentiation because of the common DJ title/prefix, there CAN be a differentiation that more accurately reflects what we do and how we do it.

=)

- VT ConQuest
(Visual Turntablist)

P.S.
Here's my Myspace page if anyone wants it: =)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=30143
 

Posted Tue 30 Jan 07 @ 6:37 am
The tradegy of the whole situation ConQuest, is I don't think Atomix and the rest of the forum members realize how much of a blessing it is that guys like you and me are in their corner, trying to improve this software, trying to spread the word and just trying to make things better around here.

I for one can say, that Atomix should be thanking their stars that someone with contacts and connections like ConQuest are singing the praises of vdj. Period.

I still have not seen him convert any serato users, but damn he makes it sound like he's trying hard. From a company standpoint, I know it's really hard to keep track of stuff like for instance, what kind of difference some random forum member is trying to make. But seriously, you guys should all recognize what this guy is trying to do (for free by the way) and appreciate it.

And that's my word.
 

Posted Tue 30 Jan 07 @ 8:52 am
anewsome wrote :
The tradegy of the whole situation ConQuest, is I don't think Atomix and the rest of the forum members realize how much of a blessing it is that guys like you and me are in their corner, trying to improve this software, trying to spread the word and just trying to make things better around here.

I for one can say, that Atomix should be thanking their stars that someone with contacts and connections like ConQuest are singing the praises of vdj. Period.

I still have not seen him convert any serato users, but damn he makes it sound like he's trying hard. From a company standpoint, I know it's really hard to keep track of stuff like for instance, what kind of difference some random forum member is trying to make. But seriously, you guys should all recognize what this guy is trying to do (for free by the way) and appreciate it.

And that's my word.


Thanks brother. =)
 

Posted Tue 30 Jan 07 @ 8:58 am
anewsome wrote :


The tradegy of the whole situation ConQuest, is I don't think Atomix and the rest of the forum members realize how much of a blessing it is that guys like you and me are in their corner, trying to improve this software, trying to spread the word and just trying to make things better around here.




I know, dont worry ;)
 

Posted Tue 30 Jan 07 @ 10:11 am
ConQuest errthing is all good =) Like I said I really respect your knowledge & opinion. Maybe I overreacted to my thread being sort of switched around. However I think we both have the same mission, which is to get our hands on VDJ mac ASAP! This way our threads should be way more effective. I have beat the VDJ horse into the ground locally(w/ club djs), to no avail. When word got around that my program crashed, there was nothing I could say anymore. Another issue with most dj's is we are not necessarily the most tech savvy group. Not that it takes a genius to run VDJ or Serato, but for a novice pc or mac user, not having the entire package in one bundle is a major set back for novice computer users. I associate with several popular radio & club Djs who swear they won't switch from vinyl (ouch!!) So for me to even try to sell virtual turntablism ( which is a great title) I have to convince the mostly Serato Dj's that this program is better & has more features. Let's not kid around, we all know Serato is extremely reliable, bundled together, easy to use & just works..... Well by the time I've explained the deal with purchasing a sound card/ interface & downloading the program ordering the control vinyl or downloading the time code to burn to cd. The average Serato user has bought Serato, installed it & has finished their first club gig by the time all this happens.
I was in Guitar Center this past Sun. & believe or not all of the salesman where not interested in Numark Cue primarily because the Mac version is not labled on the package. It says pc only. To further make an example, They had no answers for anything relating to the product. They would much rather sell you Serato because everything is bundled. I believe as great as videos are we are still a ways from getting your average dj/ turntablist to buy into Numark, Vdj, or Videos.... I will do my part to help, but you gotta hate feeling like your the only dj using a bedroom djs program (I don't believe this)

Hope Mac version lands soon, that's the only way VDJ will be taken seriously ... Peace!!!:)
 

Posted Tue 30 Jan 07 @ 9:47 pm
Glad to hear that "errthing is all good" between us djallstyle. =)

I agree with EVERYTHING that you posted above, especially THIS part:

djallstyle wrote :
I have beat the VDJ horse into the ground locally(w/ club djs), to no avail. When word got around that my program crashed, there was nothing I could say anymore.


THAT is EXACTLY why the majority of professional turntablists and serious dj's here in the U.S. have switched to Macs mostly over the past 2-3 years. Most of them were on windows pc's before that as well but had windows take a dive on them in front of an audience and, well, that's all she wrote.

You know what they say: "Once you go Mac, you never go back!" ... and if you get a black Mac (like norway's black iMac that he wants), then you don't even remember that there is anything else to go back to! =P

djallstyle wrote :
I associate with several popular radio & club Djs who swear they won't switch from vinyl (ouch!!) So for me to even try to sell virtual turntablism ( which is a great title)...


It's "VISUAL Turntablism", not "Virtual" because it's NOT virtual since we're using actual turntables and vinyl records (timecode, analog, or both). =)

Also, it's not "Video Turntablism" so that the name will stand the test of time should video be replaced in the future. It might, but "visual" imagery NEVER will, unless we as humans stop having eyes! =P

djallstyle wrote :
I have to convince the mostly Serato Dj's that this program is better & has more features.


Same here and "Amen."

Luckily it IS a LOT more full featured than Serato (especially with the available SDK's for user created additions) and when the TCV response is inline with SSL, VirtualDJ / Virtual Vinyl's BONUS features will REALLY shine!

But ONLY when the TCV response is as good AND, of course, there is a Mac version which will be real soon!


- VT ConQuest
(Visual Turntablist)
 

Posted Tue 30 Jan 07 @ 11:42 pm
Gotcha!! Visual turntablist ( sounds good)


You know what they say: "Once you go Mac, you never go back!" ... and if you get a black Mac (like norway's black iMac that he wants), then you don't even remember that there is anything else to go back to! =P


I agree 100 percent. I recently purchased a g4 power book & I say middle finger to winblows!!!
IT"S MAC OR DIE BITCHES!!!! Sorry I've had too much Mountain Dew Amp. however I have great use for pc. I can know go to as may porn sites as i want & it will be my download dummy :) until crashes & I will send it to PC hell!!!

Wow! I love this forum already, I never would have said such cruel things about pc in General discussion
 

Posted Wed 31 Jan 07 @ 5:31 am
:: AllStyle :: I'll defintely get up with you soon!

I'm down with this new MAC forum.

I agree with anewsome and conquest. You guys defintiely push the product and know your sh!t.

I need to get a registered copy soon, I got at least 70 posts in the forum, and I'm not even a user yet.
 

Posted Wed 31 Jan 07 @ 6:08 am
CHARL1E F1VE wrote :
:: AllStyle :: I'll defintely get up with you soon!

I'm down with this new MAC forum.

I agree with anewsome and conquest. You guys defintiely push the product and know your sh!t.

I need to get a registered copy soon, I got at least 70 posts in the forum, and I'm not even a user yet.


Thanks C5! =)

Long time Mac users who have used windows just as much and too the same degree (like me) are passionate about Macs because they KNOW something that windows users who haven't really used Macs (I'm talking about serious use within the past 5 years, or more accurately since the release of Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar in late 2002) would learn if they actually did give them a realtry (meaning not just looking at the screen and saying "Well, there's no START button in the lower left hand corner and i'm too much of a 'tard" to figure anything out without a START button... and why are all the icons on the right side instead of the left?... and what are those pictures and icons at the bottom of the screen? Maybe I should just click on one to find out. NAH! Macs suck!). =P

Luckily, with the switch to Intel processors followed by Apple's Boot Camp (as well as Parallel's "Desktop for Mac" and VMWare's upcoming "Fusion") windows VIRTUALIZATION (NOT emulation) solution, huge amounts of people are switching to Mac knowing that they can run windows if they have to, but more often finding out that they don't need windows at all, just Office, which is available for Mac.

Also, guess what? If they don't need Excel and just need a word processor (Word) and maybe presentation software (Powerpoint)... BAM!... they just end up buying Apple's iWork at almost half the price of Office Student Teacher Edition ($79 vs. $149) and up with Apple's own word processor application (Pages) and presentation application (Keynote): http://www.apple.com/iwork/

BOTH are WAY better and fully compatabile with, but more importantly, COMPLETE REPLACEMENTS for microsoft's inferior word and powerpoint software.

THAT is MOST often the case that I witness 2-4x a day, 5 times a week, and means NO money to microsoft and keeps everything high quality, secure, and user friendly, because that's what Apple does best!
 

Posted Wed 31 Jan 07 @ 10:13 am
djallstyle wrote :
I agree 100 percent. I recently purchased a g4 power book & I say middle finger to winblows!!!
IT"S MAC OR DIE B**CHES!!!! Sorry I've had too much Mountain Dew Amp. however I have great use for pc. I can know go to as may porn sites as i want & it will be my download dummy :) until crashes & I will send it to PC hell!!!

Wow! I love this forum already, I never would have said such cruel things about pc in General discussion


LOL!

Like I've said, the most die hard Mac enthusiasts (high on Mountain Dew "Amp" or not) are the most recent miCrapsoft winBlows switchers.

Remember, the enemy here is NOT really "pc's" (despite Apple's politically correct, but technically inaccurate, "Mac and PC" Ad campaign - they didn't want to be too blatant and put microsoft and windows in the spotlight), you need to start pointing the finger at the REAL problems, miCrapsoft, and in particular, winBlows.

I always make sure that people can put a face on the actual problem when asking about Macs, which is windows ( and microsoft), because saying "pc's" includes Linux boxes that I don't have too much of a problem with AND Macs as well, since they too are Personal Computers.

So the debate should be clearly identified as "Mac vs. windows". =)
 

Posted Wed 31 Jan 07 @ 10:40 am


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