Been going on for a year now. Pioneer ddj-sz, I have one song playiing, I press sync for the other deck and its off beat. I should NOT EVER have to edit every single song in my 2 terabyte library to get sync to work. I can load up Serato DJ, and well what do you know! It syncs. Anyone have issues like this? Again, I should not have to edit every single beat grid in vd 8.2
Posted Fri 30 Sep 16 @ 6:54 pm
Most of my beat grids are pretty spot on. Do you have some examples of bad beat grids?
Posted Fri 30 Sep 16 @ 7:17 pm
@burnyabad:
Sometimes it can be, that the first beat is not set to the 1 in a bar, rather on 2. So it is just a simple click to set the right 1.
Please see the difference between an incorrect Beat Grid and an incorrect 1.
But I have a question:
About what kind of music do we talk ?
Sometimes it can be, that the first beat is not set to the 1 in a bar, rather on 2. So it is just a simple click to set the right 1.
Please see the difference between an incorrect Beat Grid and an incorrect 1.
But I have a question:
About what kind of music do we talk ?
Posted Fri 30 Sep 16 @ 7:57 pm
I play top 40, Hip Hop, old school. Rock. I play in clubs that cater to most genres. I do not play EDM music, so my music bpms are always changing.
thank you
thank you
Posted Fri 30 Sep 16 @ 8:13 pm
burnyabad wrote :
my music bpms are always changing.
Well then sync is not for you. You'll just have to mix manually, like a "real DJ" :-)
Sync relies on the beat grid, but the beat grid is a fixed (tempo) thing - unless you get your hands dirty and go in manually to add extra anchors at every tempo variation.
Tedious in the extreme, but that's the way it is. I'd love VDJ to be smart enough to analyse variable tempos and apply the necessary itself, but it can't.
I'd love VDJ to be the first DJ software to warp tracks (see Ableton Live) and "straighten out" the tempo to match a fixed grid. Maybe one day (year, decade).
Posted Fri 30 Sep 16 @ 9:36 pm
burnyabad wrote :
I play top 40, Hip Hop, old school. Rock. I play in clubs that cater to most genres. I do not play EDM music, so my music bpms are always changing.
But Serato beatgrids are initially detected in a similar fashion - around a fixed bpm. So if sync works 100% of the time in Serato then either you've corrected the beatgrids, or the grid doesn't change.
As I requested before some actual (specific) examples would be nice so we can do some testing, otherwise there isn't really anything we can do.
Posted Sat 01 Oct 16 @ 12:11 am
I have been djing for 10 years, and I can mix manually, but I also have a very busy bar and I am doing 20 things at once most nights. OK, I don't know what else to tell you other than, If i am playing a track and I drop the next song on the deck and then sync, the beat grids are off. It's 9 times out of 10 that I have to just go back to manually mixing my music. Serato lines by beat grid up properly MOST times. Virtual DJ does not.
Posted Mon 03 Oct 16 @ 2:18 am
Let me tell you what I do. I have a custom button set to mark FIRST BEAT in my tracks. If I see that the beat grid seems off, I use my platter and cue it right where I say the first beat is and then I have a custom button set to mark FIRST BEAT and it works very easy. I never use sync at all but still, i want my beat grid perfect. Try that. It saves so you wont have to do it on the same track all the time
Posted Mon 03 Oct 16 @ 2:47 am
As said before, a couple of example song pairs would be useful.
Posted Mon 03 Oct 16 @ 5:18 am
quick fade in and outs. or sample the last 20 seconds and slowing bring up new track. just make sure they are around the same bpm. traktor has a tempo sync and a beat sync. vdj has in the advanced settings something like this. but get a controller that has 4 decks. so you can load you tracks before hand. if people wanted to mix like the olden days the wouldnt be using software. or use dvs which works great with vdj if your more comfy with real vinyl
Posted Mon 03 Oct 16 @ 8:21 am
burnyabad wrote :
If i am playing a track and I drop the next song on the deck and then sync, the beat grids are off.
Just to talk about the same way to sync: You are syncing after starting the second track ?
Posted Mon 03 Oct 16 @ 7:36 pm
It's nice to have the grids in phase but I just match bpm on load and phase by nudging.
Playing triphop to speedcore the [calculated] first beat can be wrong, with triphop sometimes it gets the phasing wrong [grid lines up with swung beats] rock is a different kettle of fish
I'd love to just get the tempo right with this one
Playing triphop to speedcore the [calculated] first beat can be wrong, with triphop sometimes it gets the phasing wrong [grid lines up with swung beats] rock is a different kettle of fish
I'd love to just get the tempo right with this one
Posted Mon 03 Oct 16 @ 7:57 pm